Weekend Stakes Beyers

[cakes44]

Was Jerry D. Bailey actually better than Castellano?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Was Jerry D. Bailey actually better than Castellano?

Different league IMO only Ramon and Cordero are in Bailey's league. I didnt see a lot of Pincay..

Lots of jocks have "in the zone" runs only a few stay in it over a career.

[ateamstupid]

Javier is the best in the game since Ramon hung it up and it's not really close.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Javier is the best in the game since Ramon hung it up and it's not really close.

It's closer then you think.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Javier is the best in the game since Ramon hung it up and it's not really close.

You don't think Junior Alvarado is even close?

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by miraja2

You don't think Junior Alvarado is even close?

Junior, Lezcano, Maragh and JV are all as good. Both Ortiz brothers will be.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Junior, Lezcano, Maragh and JV are all as good. Both Ortiz brothers will be.

You kind of went for it there.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by cakes44

You kind of went for it there.

Not really. He is more then capable.

[Kitan]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Junior, Lezcano, Maragh and JV are all as good. Both Ortiz brothers will be.

There's that East Coast bias again...

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Kitan

There's that East Coast bias again...

Who on the West Coast then? Maybe Victor, maybe Talmo, but I don't think he's the yet. Sometimes Garcia even butchers Bob's rocket ships, so not him.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by miraja2

You don't think Junior Alvarado is even close?

Junior is terrific and so is Lezcano. But they don't do it consistently on both surfaces like Javier does.

[cakes44]

Dynamite ride by Junior on Samraat...

[RHT2004]

What did he do wrong? Horse was empty.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Was Jerry D. Bailey actually better than Castellano?

TONS better.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Javier is the best in the game since Ramon hung it up and it's not really close.

You're right, and that says as much about the rest of the riders in the country as it does his performance over the last 2 years.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Was Jerry D. Bailey actually better than Castellano?

Bailey has GOAT status. Kinda like Bob.

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Bailey has GOAT status. Kinda like Bob.

Bailey was a master on Turf and Dirt. Bob Baffert is a master on dirt NOT turf.
As much as Baffert has had success on Dirt races, he is almost absent in any mention of him being a great turf trainer.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

Bailey was a master on Turf and Dirt. Bob Baffert is a master on dirt NOT turf.
As much as Baffert has had success on Dirt races, he is almost absent in any mention of him being a great turf trainer.

I don't think turf racing is relevant at all when discussing Bob's credentials. American Classics are all on dirt. Most of are horses are bred for dirt. The big sire making races are all run on dirt.