shooting in sc

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Coach.. You're over-reacting to what I'm over-reacting to. My frustration is in trying to figure out a way to address whatever socio-economic forces are producing the wide variety of mass shootings we endure here. That's all. It's an aspect of life here that shouldn't be as pronounced as it is. Along with things like infant mortality and illiteracy rates.

It's a ripple affect of society. The way some/most have gone soft with raising kids and by what is being allowed to be viewed on t.v's,games, movies, magazines, Billboards, social media, etc.that wasn't there 30+ yrs ago. It's evolution and it's going in a bad direction. I really don't think there is a way to stop it from getting worse

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Arletta

It's a ripple affect of society. The way some/most have gone soft with raising kids and by what is being allowed to be viewed on t.v's,games, movies, magazines, Billboards, social media, etc.that wasn't there 30+ yrs ago. It's evolution and it's going in a bad direction. I really don't think there is a way to stop it from getting worse

I disagree. This isnt a new thing, occurring only very recently.

http://news.discovery.com/history/ma...ory-121220.htm

Every generation looks at the next one and says we are screwed. Whether it was women voting, rock n roll, or facebook, some point and blame.
in many ways we are better off than ever. The good old days included polio, smallpox and no antibiotics.
there have always been mentally ill folks and bizarre behavior. What we as a nation need to do is treat mental illness as the health issue it is. The therapist of the colorado shooter was concerned, so he called the shooters mother. Wtf? Better he could have called a hospital and had the guy admitted.
in louisiana, they just watered down a measure that would have prevented people with stalking records and domestic violence from getting a gun. Again, wtf?
This guy seemed a nut, who was fed a lot of hate from god knows where. It was a lethal combination.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I disagree. This isnt a new thing, occurring only very recently.

http://news.discovery.com/history/ma...ory-121220.htm

Every generation looks at the next one and says we are screwed. Whether it was women voting, rock n roll, or facebook, some point and blame.
in many ways we are better off than ever. The good old days included polio, smallpox and no antibiotics.
there have always been mentally ill folks and bizarre behavior. What we as a nation need to do is treat mental illness as the health issue it is. The therapist of the colorado shooter was concerned, so he called the shooters mother. Wtf? Better he could have called a hospital and had the guy admitted.
in louisiana, they just watered down a measure that would have prevented people with stalking records and domestic violence from getting a gun. Again, wtf?
This guy seemed a nut, who was fed a lot of hate from god knows where. It was a lethal combination.

So your saying that all the violence we see on T.V, movies and games now have nothing at all to do with being a contributor? I am not trying to compare if we are "better" now, by the medicine, because of course we are especially with the diagnosis/medication available for people with mental illness'. I am simply stating from a MORAL perspective that society today is more at risk safety wise than say in the 50's and 60's.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Arletta

So your saying that all the violence we see on T.V, movies and games now have nothing at all to do with being a contributor? I am not trying to compare if we are "better" now, by the medicine, because of course we are especially with the diagnosis/medication available for people with mental illness'. I am simply stating from a MORAL perspective that society today is more at risk safety wise than say in the 50's and 60's.

I disagree with that as well. our crime rates are lower than in decades. One reason people give is more meds for mental illness. Another is that lead is no longer an issue like it once was, with it removed from gasoline and paint. Even the romans knew it could make you crazy.
Now, if you want to talk priorities with funding, thats something to discuss. We can afford to outspend the rest of the world military wise, but we cant afford better education? Health care, including for mental illness?

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I disagree with that as well. our crime rates are lower than in decades. One reason people give is more meds for mental illness. Another is that lead is no longer an issue like it once was, with it removed from gasoline and paint. Even the romans knew it could make you crazy.
Now, if you want to talk priorities with funding, thats something to discuss. We can afford to outspend the rest of the world military wise, but we cant afford better education? Health care, including for mental illness?

You must also take into account that decades ago they didn't have access to 'the bad stuff' like we do now.

Every offensive image, video, story, etc at the tip of our fingertips. Back in the day you had to work for it.