shooting in sc

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I think that a lot of people feel exactly the same, which is why I find it odd that Pierce calls out people who refer to this incident as "unspeakable" or "unthinkable." Rational, good people find it difficult if not impossible to comprehend what this guy did, on several levels, and without foresight to consult a thesaurus before they speak from their hearts.

Pierce: "The country must resist the temptation present in anesthetic innocence. It must reject the false comfort of learned disbelief and the narcotic embrace of concocted surprise."

So we shouldn't be surprised. We're guilty of allowing this to happen. This display is after all, as Pierce says, "the dark heart of America."

Well okay then.

well, one problem is that people don't want to talk about it. about guns, about violence, about how things are, about race, about any of it. some think nothing can be done-but i disagree about that.
why this particular person did what he did, i don't know.
so, no, it's not a surprise, he's right. what's surprising is that there's no will to change it.

it's like the guy in colorado. i read yesterday on another site that the guys therapist called his mother, because the therapist was concerned. but, mom said it's all ok. um, what?! an oncologist wouldn't tell you you don't need cancer treatment if mom said you were ok, why do we still refuse to deal with mental health in the way we need to? and parents never want to think that junior is off, they want it to be ok. so they pretend it's ok. we had a guy here a few years ago shoot a classmate. he was a nut, all the students knew it. teachers knew it. parents did nothing til he killed that kid. now, he's crazy, and now he's in the psych ward. little late isn't it?!

and where was he getting all this 'you're taking over our country, raping our women' bs?! who instilled that in him?

[dellinger63]

"At some point," he added, "we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other developed countries."

Barak Obama

Um is France a developed country?

How about Norway where a gunman killed 85?

Germany, Russia, Finland, Spain, Australia and Italy, are they developed countries?

Guess ignorance is bliss for some.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Um is France a developed country?

How about Norway where a gunman killed 85?

Germany, Russia, Finland, Spain, Australia and Italy, are they developed countries?

Guess ignorance is bliss for some.

Like you apparently.

You're comparing gun violence here with the rest of the world and think it's on a par? OK.

[Kasept]

South Carolina's oh-so-special Sen. Lindsey Graham.. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...us-charleston/

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Kasept

South Carolina's oh-so-special Sen. Lindsey Graham.. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...us-charleston/

Oh, god. Lindsey graham. Jesus. That guy is indescribably idiotic.

[Pants II]

Subuxone, reports the dude played fps games 8-12 hours a day, did obvious research on the Church hence the correlation of historic date...

and we're still going to be told it's a lone wolf. Even though we know the Boston Bombers were influenced by individuals on the net.

This young man is a victim of the MIC. From the poppy fields to the television set.

Sickening.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Like you apparently.

You're comparing gun violence here with the rest of the world and think it's on a par? OK.

I don't think it's on par but am not so ignorant to state it doesn't happen in other developed countries.

[Pants II]

Reichstag Fire Decree, suspended the provisions of the German constitution that protected basic individual rights, including freedom of the press, freedom of speech, and freedom of assembly. The decree also permitted increased state and police intervention into private life, allowing officials to censor mail, listen in on phone conversations, and search private homes without a warrant or need to show reasonable cause. Under the state of emergency established by the decree, the Nazi regime could arrest and detain people without cause and without limits on the length of incarceration.

Taking advantage of a frightened public. Taking away their rights.

Easily being swayed by emotion. The easiest to manipulate and control.

Very little difference.

History often repeats.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Because it's comparable especially considering your boyfriend Obummer just said it doesn't happen anywhere civilized. (not exact quote, semantics tards). He basically said the French don't exist. Charlie Hebdo didn't happen.

He insults the intelligence of non-ret.arded, agenda-driven 'Americans' who are ignorant enough to believe a simple executive order banning guns will actually end these events.

The only way you'll have a chance at success is door to door confiscation.

No different than the Nazis. The hypocrisy is astounding. The naive idiotic mantras you anti-American scum spout when an emotional event happens...TYPICAL. Ban me. You're a shill.

Originally Posted by Pants II

Taking advantage of a frightened public. Taking away their rights. Easily being swayed by emotion. The easiest to manipulate and control. Very little difference. History often repeats.

Coach.. You're over-reacting to what I'm over-reacting to. My frustration is in trying to figure out a way to address whatever socio-economic forces are producing the wide variety of mass shootings we endure here. That's all. It's an aspect of life here that shouldn't be as pronounced as it is. Along with things like infant mortality and illiteracy rates.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Coach.. You're over-reacting to what I'm over-reacting to. My frustration is in trying to figure out a way to address whatever socio-economic forces are producing the wide variety of mass shootings we endure here. That's all. It's an aspect of life here that shouldn't be as pronounced as it is. Along with things like infant mortality and illiteracy rates.

It's a ripple affect of society. The way some/most have gone soft with raising kids and by what is being allowed to be viewed on t.v's,games, movies, magazines, Billboards, social media, etc.that wasn't there 30+ yrs ago. It's evolution and it's going in a bad direction. I really don't think there is a way to stop it from getting worse

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Coach.. You're over-reacting to what I'm over-reacting to. My frustration is in trying to figure out a way to address whatever socio-economic forces are producing the wide variety of mass shootings we endure here. That's all. It's an aspect of life here that shouldn't be as pronounced as it is. Along with things like infant mortality and illiteracy rates.

Illiteracy rates?

That's a good question especially considering what happened to Freddie Gray.

Why is it that the Baltimore Sun can still do decent research about how Freddie and his sister lived in a building that was covered in lead paint and they were basically poisoned for years leading to a myriad of health problems including severe mental deficiencies?

Instead what we get is a blatant overlook of that article and a witch hunt. And I believe this has more to do with the media protecting their favorite team in the false left-right paradigm game.

How is it in a country hyper-focused on making certain individuals pay dearly for their behavior and negligence that the landlord of Freddie's childhood home is getting a pass when laws about lead in homes have been on the books since the early 70's?

It goes much deeper than merely gun control.

Sorry I got testy it's just I'm tired of the narrative. It needs to change.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Coach.. You're over-reacting to what I'm over-reacting to. My frustration is in trying to figure out a way to address whatever socio-economic forces are producing the wide variety of mass shootings we endure here. That's all. It's an aspect of life here that shouldn't be as pronounced as it is. Along with things like infant mortality and illiteracy rates.

Yeah, what did that vidoe posted on here anout america include? Number one in defense, death rate for infants, and people who believe in angels.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I don't think it's on par but am not so ignorant to state it doesn't happen in other developed countries.

I'm not looking to debate what the President said.. The bigger issue that I'm reacting to is how as a country there hasn't been any coherent attempt to figure out how to practically address a problem that goes on and on and on. That's all.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I don't think it's on par but am not so ignorant to state it doesn't happen in other developed countries.

Turns out the President and I were both wrong. Norway is the mass shooting capital of the world by far when population is considered. Then there's the fact the four countries ranked above the U.S. all have restrictive gun laws. Feelings over facts rule again.

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/06/3481...es-him-wrong/?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Turns out the President and I were both wrong. Norway Was In The Timeframe I Produced the mass shooting capital of the world by far when population is considered. Then there's the fact the four countries ranked above the U.S. all have restrictive gun laws. Feelings over facts rule again.

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/06/3481...es-him-wrong/?

FTFY

2009-2013. You are presenting this as if it reflects 19-June-2015. Again Cherry picked facts over reality. I certainly don't have anything updated but I gotta call you out on posting 2009-2013 as if it reflects the current situation.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

FTFY

2009-2013. You are presenting this as if it reflects 19-June-2015. Again Cherry picked facts over reality. I certainly don't have anything updated but I gotta call you out on posting 2009-2013 as if it reflects the current situation.

So you're saying there have been 4,651 killed in the mass shootings in the past 2 years here? Because that would be what it would take for us to equal Norway provided there hasn't been any killed via mass shootings there.

The chart is outdated by 2 years old but simple math, provided the USA has a population of 319 million, extrapolates the above number that we are fortunately way short of.

Again feelings over facts usually isn't a good way to handle statistics.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

FTFY

2009-2013. You are presenting this as if it reflects 19-June-2015. Again Cherry picked facts over reality. I certainly don't have anything updated but I gotta call you out on posting 2009-2013 as if it reflects the current situation.

pretending there's no issue fixes nothing.
we have police operating based on race, a city who used the black populace as a source of funding, and now a tragedy in one church, and apparently an attempt at another in richmond.
but yeah, let's pretend there's no issue. let's listen to pundits saying it's religion, and people running for office who say this was an attack on religion. even tho the guy said what he said...nah, not racist.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...-churches.html

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Like you apparently.

You're comparing gun violence here with the rest of the world and think it's on a par? OK.

Because it's comparable especially considering your boyfriend Obummer just said it doesn't happen anywhere civilized. (not exact quote, semantics tards).

He basically said the French don't exist. Charlie Hebdo didn't happen.

He insults the intelligence of non-ret.arded, agenda-driven 'Americans' who are ignorant enough to believe a simple executive order banning guns will actually end these events.

The only way you'll have a chance at success is door to door confiscation.

No different than the Nazis.

The hypocrisy is astounding. The naive idiotic mantras you anti-American scum spout when an emotional event happens...TYPICAL.

Ban me. You're a shill.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's like the guy in colorado. i read yesterday on another site that the guys therapist called his mother, because the therapist was concerned. but, mom said it's all ok. um, what?!

A not so reliant news source is reporting the racist murderer was on psych drugs. What father buys his psychotic kid a .45 for his 21st birthday? If this turns out to be true the father needs to go away as an accessory to nine counts of murder and several counts of accessory to attempted murder while Jr. gets the death penalty.