6/9 ATR: A. Zayat, Beyer, Serling, Haskin, Migliore & Hazleton

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Aly-Sheba

Both the Andy brothers will not give any credit to AP because they can't admit the are and were wrong. I will take Ritchie Miglore's opinion that he is a great horse since he has actually ridden for a living over these guys. I love the comment when Andy S. said he got perfect trips in all 3 races. Normally speed horses do have less trouble. Maybe it's my imagination, but Andy B. seems to give west coast horses lower speed figures, we should call him Andy Bias!!

So really you only heard the part of the conversation that you wanted to hear.

[Alabama Stakes]

pretty sure the last 3 Triple Crown winners in the 70's had perfect trips too. I already knew I missed the boat after watching that 6/1/15 5 furlong work. If that Belmont win didn't convince you about that hoss, you are just plain anti west coast. Probably still hatin on Affirmed and Sunday Silence

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

pretty sure the last 3 Triple Crown winners in the 70's had perfect trips too. I already knew I missed the boat after watching that 6/1/15 5 furlong work. If that Belmont win didn't convince you about that hoss, you are just plain anti west coast. Probably still hatin on Affirmed and Sunday Silence

I wouldn't say any of the three had all perfect trips, far from it.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

pretty sure the last 3 Triple Crown winners in the 70's had perfect trips too. I already knew I missed the boat after watching that 6/1/15 5 furlong work. If that Belmont win didn't convince you about that hoss, you are just plain anti west coast. Probably still hatin on Affirmed and Sunday Silence

There is no difference between a horse that is running free on the front without a horse at his throat or more likely you really didn't watch the triple crown races of the 70's or don't understand the difference between the two scenarios?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by pointman

There is no difference between a horse that is running free on the front without a home at his throat or more likely you really didn't watch the triple crown races of the 70's or don't understand the difference between the two scenarios?

Home? Autoincorrect?

Yeah, secretariat didn't get any perfect trips. Slews was slightly better, and alydar at your jugular for 1.5 miles has to be less than ideal.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Home? Autoincorrect?

Yeah, secretariat didn't get any perfect trips. Slews was slightly better, and alydar at your jugular for 1.5 miles has to be less than ideal.

Yes, on my iPhone. But I know you get the point, others apparently don't.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So really you only heard the part of the conversation that you wanted to hear.

The college exam analogy was spot on.
Instead of comparing AP to Secretariat I am trying to envision a race between AP and Race Day Arkansas Derby day. It was one of the few race cards throughout the prep season that older horses ran the exact distance that the 3yo's ran.

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So really you only heard the part of the conversation that you wanted to hear.

I actually listened to both Andy's segments again while I think Andy Bias is nuts, I don't necessarily agree with Andy S. saying that A.P. would need to run as a 4yr to show he is a great horse. Secretariat didn't run as 4yr and most think he was a great horse.