Former Speaker Denny Hastert Indicted

[GenuineRisk]

Hastert took credit for getting the PATRIOT Act passed, which made indicting people committing this kind of action (the money withdrawals, not the abuse of minors) easier. I'm not sure if that counts as irony or karma.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Hastert took credit for getting the PATRIOT Act passed, which made indicting people committing this kind of action (the money withdrawals, not the abuse of minors) easier. I'm not sure if that counts as irony or karma.

Irony, karma would be him getting a mop handle stuck up his azz till it comes out his mouth.

Unfortunately I'm sure with his connections he'll never do time, get a huge fine and disappear into some hole. Or he'll put off trial long enough his fat azz will die of 'natural' causes.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Hastert took credit for getting the PATRIOT Act passed, which made indicting people committing this kind of action (the money withdrawals, not the abuse of minors) easier. I'm not sure if that counts as irony or karma.

Both.
He lied to the fbi, and took withdrawls in a way to hide acrutiny...when the fbi got sord, they thought he might have had something going on from when he was in congress....he should have told the truth. Might have hit the press anyway, but he wouldnt be facing charges.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Both.
He lied to the fbi, and took withdrawls in a way to hide acrutiny...when the fbi got sord, they thought he might have had something going on from when he was in congress....he should have told the truth. Might have hit the press anyway, but he wouldnt be facing charges.

The FBI were tipped off by a second male victim. They knew exactly what they were targeting going in. Supposedly another member of congress was also tipped off years ago to Denny's love of boys but thought it just a made up rumor.

The problem is though Denny committed two crimes; lying to the FBI and structuring withdrawals to avoid filing both are rather minor and unless he's charged with separate counts for each withdrawal he'll likely escape with a minor sentence after a plea compared to what he could have faced for sexual assault and sex with a minor times how many times he committed each offense. Again I feel sex crimes should have no statute of limitations but it is what it is.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The FBI were tipped off by a second male victim. They knew exactly what they were targeting going in. Supposedly another member of congress was also tipped off years ago to Denny's love of boys but thought it just a made up rumor.

The problem is though Denny committed two crimes; lying to the FBI and structuring withdrawals to avoid filing both are rather minor and unless he's charged with separate counts for each withdrawal he'll likely escape with a minor sentence after a plea compared to what he could have faced for sexual assault and sex with a minor times how many times he committed each offense. Again I feel sex crimes should have no statute of limitations but it is what it is.

Couldn't a lawyer make a case that the crimes were ongoing as hush money was paid to conceal them?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Couldn't a lawyer make a case that the crimes were ongoing as hush money was paid to conceal them?

Don't know but an interesting argument for prosecutors to consider which, I'm sure they have. From what I understand the hush money didn't begin until the mid 2000's which would have made it some 20 years plus after the sexual abuse occured.

Just wish the law placing a statute of limitation on sexual abuse/rape crimes was changed and I think the Denny Hastert Law would be a apropos name.

Read not too long ago that over 75% of women locked up in Cook County Jail were victims of sexual abuse some time in their lives. As I stated before a victim of abuse lives with it for a lifetime so I think an abuser/offender should as well be prosecutable over a lifetime.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Don't know but an interesting argument for prosecutors to consider which, I'm sure they have. From what I understand the hush money didn't begin until the mid 2000's which would have made it some 20 years plus after the sexual abuse occured.

Just wish the law placing a statute of limitation on sexual abuse/rape crimes was changed and I think the Denny Hastert Law would be a apropos name.

Read not too long ago that over 75% of women locked up in Cook County Jail were victims of sexual abuse some time in their lives. As I stated before a victim of abuse lives with it for a lifetime so I think an abuser/offender should as well be prosecutable over a lifetime.

And again 04-Jun-2015

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

And again 04-Jun-2015

Stop it!