American Pharoah with authority

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

I think I'd be more inclined to agree with the "greatness" thing if Tale of Verve hadn't finished 2nd.

--Dunbar

So by following your logic, you are willing to dismiss Dortmund as a complete fraud then I assume. Or blanket him the same litany of excuses that were afforded him after the derby.

It's amazing.

The horse was a suck up, beat nothing in the derby with a dream trip, had it his own way by going to the lead against the other two top 3 finishers in the derby...et. al.

Jesus Christ. What the fuc1< do you people want?!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

So by following your logic, you are willing to dismiss Dortmund as a complete fraud then I assume. Or blanket him the same litany of excuses that were afforded him after the derby.

It's amazing.

The horse was a suck up, beat nothing in the derby with a dream trip, had it his own way by going to the lead against the other two top 3 finishers in the derby...et. al.

Jesus Christ. What the fuc1< do you people want?!

How quickly it has become who did he beat. Just a couple weeks back we were hearing how good this crop is...some people are never satisfied....

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

So by following your logic, you are willing to dismiss Dortmund as a complete fraud then I assume. Or blanket him the same litany of excuses that were afforded him after the derby.

No. By my logic, American Pharoah beat horses in the Preakness that for whatever reason, ran worse than Tale of Verve, who no one is going to put in a list of very good horses yet.

There were 2 other good horses in the Preakness. Did you see the horrific step that Firing Line took out of the gate?

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

It's amazing.

The horse was a suck up, beat nothing in the derby with a dream trip, had it his own way by going to the lead against the other two top 3 finishers in the derby...et. al.

Jesus Christ. What the fuc1< do you people want?!

Sorry, I'm not ready to call him a "spectacular horse" yet.

If you want to say American Pharoah's probably as good as Big Brown or Smarty Jones were at this stage of their careers, then fine. But if you're maintaining he's somehow superior to those horses, or that his Derby and Preakness were superior to Funny Cide's, say, then you'll get an argument.

--Dunbar