Barbaro

[ranger5830]

I wonder if anyone has ever calculated the ROI of horses that break through the gate. I don't know it offhand but I am guessing it is very low, because I would be surprised if 2 out of 100 win. I think people would rather get all their money back rather than risk it all on a horse with a drastically reduced chance of winning plus you don't risk running a possibly injured horse.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by ranger5830

I wonder if anyone has ever calculated the ROI of horses that break through the gate. I don't know it offhand but I am guessing it is very low, because I would be surprised if 2 out of 100 win. I think people would rather get all their money back rather than risk it all on a horse with a drastically reduced chance of winning plus you don't risk running a possibly injured horse.

http://speedhorse-to-win.com/at-the-starting-gate/

Someone did a sample, and yes, it's low. Mind you, it's really an impossible correlation to make, as there is only one winner of a race so most horses that do not break through are also going to lose any given race. But it seems like it'd be a rule that few bettors would object to: break through a gate= automatic scratch.

[Frost King]

Just out of curiosity, what great horses did Barbaro beat in his Kentucky Derby? To me it looked like, the typical bad field of Derby starters.

[jrajf]

We were seated right in front of the starting gate. What I remember to this day was watching him pull up and Prado getting off and being amazed at how the crowd was pretty oblivious to the tragedy that had just occurred. I couldn't take my eyes off of it...

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Frost King

Just out of curiosity, what great horses did Barbaro beat in his Kentucky Derby? To me it looked like, the typical bad field of Derby starters.

Bluegrass Cat, Brother Derek, Showing Up and Lawyer Ron weren't GREAT...but they were pretty good horses and Barbaro handled them pretty easily that day.

Several people on here seem to be assuming that the gate incident directly led to the injury. We don't really know that do we? It certainly could have played a role but sometimes horses just take a bad step.

[booner]

Originally Posted by Frost King

Just out of curiosity, what great horses did Barbaro beat in his Kentucky Derby? To me it looked like, the typical bad field of Derby starters.

To me it wasn't WHO he beat but HOW he beat them. It was very convincing.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

http://speedhorse-to-win.com/at-the-starting-gate/

Someone did a sample, and yes, it's low. Mind you, it's really an impossible correlation to make, as there is only one winner of a race so most horses that do not break through are also going to lose any given race. But it seems like it'd be a rule that few bettors would object to: break through a gate= automatic scratch.

Hyper just ran third in the man o war after breaking thru the gate.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Hyper just ran third in the man o war after breaking thru the gate.

In a 6 horse field on a closing track.