American Pharoah...

[Dunbar]

I think he will be overbet and will not be using him. That said, like Dellinger I hope Am Pharoah and/or Dortmund end up on the rail.

--Dunbar

[jwkniska]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

I think he will be overbet and will not be using him. That said, like Dellinger I hope Am Pharoah and/or Dortmund end up on the rail.

--Dunbar

I agree 100%

[NTamm1215]

Not using him on top. I'm going to let him run a race in the afternoon that matches the accolades he seems to earn in the morning before I drink the Kool-Aid.

[Thunder Gulch]

Betting against, but not because I think he can't be a star

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Not using him on top. I'm going to let him run a race in the afternoon that matches the accolades he seems to earn in the morning before I drink the Kool-Aid.

There will be millions of dollars bet on horses because people like their name or color or 14 is their lucky number, that will counter balance the hype substantially. Remember on paper he is at least the 2nd most likely winner and has such pitching him to win is a dubious prop. Is he not an "A" on every smart handicappers vertical wager? Would you ever want to lose a pick 3/4/6 because you pitched AP because of hype and deflated odds?

I wouldnt bet him to win either regardless if I think he wins by 6

[DaTruth]

Going against. I just don't see how sitting off a hopeless longshot early in the Arkansas Derby means the "can he rate?" box gets a check mark. Let's see what happens when he rates behind Dortmund and engages him on the far turn.

[SundayStar]

if you're leaving him off, all i can say is good luck.

[Thunder Gulch]

I'm not leaving him off the top, but would be much better off if he runs 3rd.

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Going against. I just don't see how sitting off a hopeless longshot early in the Arkansas Derby means the "can he rate?" box gets a check mark. Let's see what happens when he rates behind Dortmund and engages him on the far turn.

Sitting in the clear off a 45.4 half doesn't get a check mark from me either.Sure he relaxed. Didn't expect him to be running off into those fractions.

[Sightseek]

I love the post he drew.

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Not using him on top. I'm going to let him run a race in the afternoon that matches the accolades he seems to earn in the morning before I drink the Kool-Aid.

My thoughts exactly. I am ordering a Frosted shake.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Not using him on top. I'm going to let him run a race in the afternoon that matches the accolades he seems to earn in the morning before I drink the Kool-Aid.

I agree with you, Nick. I also think that Dortmund deserves to be favored over AP.