saturday play day !!!!

jms62 · #1 04-04-2015, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Well that was impressive by Dortmund, 22 and 46 and they were spinning their wheels behind him.

Is this Derby setting up for another Giacamo as the best horses duel themselves into submission on the front end?

Kitan · #2 04-04-2015, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Is this Derby setting up for another Giacamo as the best horses duel themselves into submission on the front end?

Haven't followed SA today...how has the track been playing? Final time not great considering the fractions and quick times historically for the race.

Prep races have been poor betting races with small fields...think we might see a bomb come May, especially given the early speedsters.

geeker2 · #3 04-04-2015, 06:04 PM

04/04 3:53 PM Golden Gate Fields 7 $20.00 EX (PWHL) 9 / 2, 7 $40.00

pointman · #4 04-04-2015, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Is this Derby setting up for another Giacamo as the best horses duel themselves into submission on the front end?

That is a good question. With horses being so lightly raced today we really can't tell which one of these horses that have won on the engine can rate. You can't blame Garcia for going to the lead today considering that he had the 1 hole, he certainly didn't want to get buried on the rail.

You have to figure that one of the Baffert's are going to have to rate in the Derby and I think Dortmund can rate. He is going to be a serious contender in the Derby IMO.

Kitan · #5 04-04-2015, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

That is a good question. With horses being so lightly raced today we really can't tell which one of these horses that have won on the engine can rate. You can't blame Garcia for going to the lead today considering that he had the 1 hole, he certainly didn't want to get buried on the rail.

You have to figure that one of the Baffert's are going to have to rate in the Derby and I think Dortmund can rate. He is going to be a serious contender in the Derby IMO.

He showed last year in his first two starts he doesn't need the lead. Unless he draws 1 or 2 I can't see him gunning it.

casp0555 · #6 04-04-2015, 06:15 PM

SA 9

$10 win 1

$2 DD 1 / 1,4,8,9,10,11,13

$24

pointman · #7 04-04-2015, 06:16 PM

Sa 10

$10dd 1,5/6,10

Kitan · #8 04-04-2015, 06:16 PM

Sa R9
$5 Ex 7/4, 6, 9, 11 $20
$2 Exb 4, 7, 9 $12
$1 Tri 7/4, 6, 9, 11/4, 6, 9, 11 $12

knickslions2 · #9 04-04-2015, 06:17 PM

SA 10

$20 win 1
$20 dd
1,4/10

pointman · #10 04-04-2015, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan

He showed last year in his first two starts he doesn't need the lead. Unless he draws 1 or 2 I can't see him gunning it.

I agree, he has shown the ability to rate, feel like his last two wins have been about dynamics, not that he is a need the lead horse.

casp0555 · #11 04-04-2015, 06:21 PM

fizzle...fizzle

pointman · #12 04-04-2015, 06:21 PM

Damn, didn't think that horse could stretch out like that, nice aggressive ride by Talamo.

geeker2 · #13 04-04-2015, 06:23 PM

04/04 12:28 PM Santa Anita 10 $20.00 WPS 6 $60.00

Just in case the 6 wins..heck he is only 40-1

04/04 12:29 PM Santa Anita 8 $0.50 P4 (PWHL) 1 / 1, 2, 4, 8, 10 / 6 / 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13 $27.50

geeker2 · #14 04-04-2015, 06:54 PM

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04/04 12:28 PM Santa Anita 10 $20.00 WPS 6 $60.00

Just in case the 6 wins..heck he is only 40-1

04/04 12:29 PM Santa Anita 8 $0.50 P4 (PWHL) 1 / 1, 2, 4, 8, 10 / 6 / 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13 $27.50

wow that sucked

Kitan · #15 04-04-2015, 06:24 PM

Point & knicks, don't mean to belittle you, but as you guys are great 'cappers just want to ask your view about the worktab and how much emphasis you guys place on it? You both loved the 1 at SA but she missed a full month of recorded works between her last two so I couldn't even really consider her, especially when the stablemate hadn't missed a single one. Was there another reason you guys really liked her?

pointman · #16 04-04-2015, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan

Point & knicks, don't mean to belittle you, but as you guys are great 'cappers just want to ask your view about the worktab and how much emphasis you guys place on it? You both loved the 1 at SA but she missed a full month of recorded works between her last two so I couldn't even really consider her, especially when the stablemate hadn't missed a single one. Was there another reason you guys really liked her?

I honestly missed that. For me I liked her one turf effort which I thought was against a comparable field to what she faced today and felt that if Hollendorfer gave her a shot in a Grade 1 on dirt that he must really think a lot of her. Looking back now I see that she was even a vet scratch on March 7 which makes missing the workout gap even worse.

casp0555 · #17 04-04-2015, 06:38 PM

SA 10
$1 iTrifecta - 9,10/9,10,13/1,4,9,10,13
$12

knickslions2 · #18 04-04-2015, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan

Point & knicks, don't mean to belittle you, but as you guys are great 'cappers just want to ask your view about the worktab and how much emphasis you guys place on it? You both loved the 1 at SA but she missed a full month of recorded works between her last two so I couldn't even really consider her, especially when the stablemate hadn't missed a single one. Was there another reason you guys really liked her?

Kitan I must admit I missed that too. Happens when there are a lot of races to look at in a day and I do not pay as much attention to works as I probably should. I thought this field was pretty even and I liked that last turf win and figured the distance would be fine. The odds were more then generous in my opinion and I do like Hollendofer.