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02-22-2015, 08:27 AM
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Objectively, disagreed with both calls.
Subjectively, would like to thank the stewards for a $196 double to finish the day.  O
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02-22-2015, 11:34 AM
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02-22-2015, 12:45 PM
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Otis, don't take it personally. He hates it when the gods of good luck smile on someone else.
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02-23-2015, 08:42 AM
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I don't understand why the two calls are mutually inclusive.
However unpopular an opinion, I agreed with the take down of Upstart. To say that Itsaknockout "wouldn't have gotten to Upstart without interfenence" is insane and purely subjective. Ortiz drives Upstart, left handed, into Itsaknockout's path repeatedly, then after Saez checks, Ortiz goes right handed. Dead Giveaway. Jock knew what he was doing, tried to interfere with a coming horse, and got caught.
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02-23-2015, 10:18 AM
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Like you, seeing the jock go left handed to the whip would have been the main justification for taking him down. He should definitely get days for that. I thought it was also kind of funny that the other idiot (jock) went to the right handed whip.
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02-23-2015, 11:20 AM
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It's hard enough to pick a race winner it's tougher still to have one taken down
Like poker we seem to remember the bad beats inflicted on us more than we remember the bad beats we've inflicted This was a bad beat for many reasons not to mention the breeding purse and derby point fall out And the ruling on the 12th was just salt and lemon on the cut
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02-24-2015, 01:43 AM
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One exception would be the first few jumps from the gate. We look for very quick correction if a horse doesn't break straight. There's an old adage stewards have been known to say to jockeys. " The first jump is yours. The 2nd ours"
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02-23-2015, 02:37 PM
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I think DQ'ing a horse for coming out one path like that in a race he won by 2 3/4 lengths is ridiculous in any case. However, it'd be a little easier to stomach if this was a country that took a hard line on herding. In the context of all the herding that is regularly dismissed without even an inquiry, Upstart's DQ was absolutely comical. And if Upstart comes down, the winner in the 12th has to as well. 100%. I don't know how any rational person could argue otherwise. Either they both stay up or they both get disqualified. The only way stewards with functioning brain stems can come up with two different decisions in those races is if they're up there flipping coins.
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02-23-2015, 02:42 PM
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I know it's all subjective but the head-on shows the inside horse initiated the contact.
Then the outside horse comes in slightly and then Upstart initiates contact with the 5. And it's not that Upstart winning by 2 and change is impressive...they were crawling home. That should factor in as well. How can you logically say a horse beaten multiple lengths with those closing fractions would've won the race if he wasn't bumped? With utmost certainty? IMO it's a bad disqualification.
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02-23-2015, 06:35 PM
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Ortiz purposely herded Upstart left-handed into Itsaknockout's path, bothered the horse, then causes the bothered horse to check, then went right-handed. Caught dead to rights. Zero intent in the 12th. Contreras was RIGHT HANDED, leading Danish Dynaformer away from Dreaming of Gold. Once Castellano leveled, there was mutual bumping as they we BOTH being ridden - if anything Castellano goes righthanded late and comes in a little on DD, but nothing that bothered the horse. Correct call on both accounts-
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