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Old 12-06-2006, 07:19 PM
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So...you are clearly stating here that you believe a person chooses to be gay! Is that correct?
At the other end..you're saying gays are born that way?
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:45 PM
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At the other end..you're saying gays are born that way?
So...you accuse people of generalizing your beliefs yet when asked a direct question, you answer with a question! I won't dodge your's...yes, I believe that folk's sexual identity is NOT a matter of choice! Whether a newborn is sexually imprinted or whether there are predispositions which may be triggered by environment I do not know...genetic research will eventually definitively answer that question, but I don't recall deciding I would be a heterosexual...do you?
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:58 PM
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So...you accuse people of generalizing your beliefs yet when asked a direct question, you answer with a question! I won't dodge your's...yes, I believe that folk's sexual identity is NOT a matter of choice! Whether a newborn is sexually imprinted or whether there are predispositions which may be triggered by environment I do not know...genetic research will eventually definitively answer that question, but I don't recall deciding I would be a heterosexual...do you?
Somer: you're kinda cranky today,buddy! I'm not dodgeing,,just parrying. I do believe gays are made, not born. There have been various studies and the like..none that I can readily bring to mind. I never thought about being anything other hetero, altho there were apparent influences attempting to sway my judgement several times in my life. I'm not ready to fight to the death on this one ...so we'll just disagree. Best to you Timm PS..when did anyone say anything about my beliefs?
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:05 PM
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Somer: you're kinda cranky today,buddy! I'm not dodgeing,,just parrying. I do believe gays are made, not born. There have been various studies and the like..none that I can readily bring to mind. I never thought about being anything other hetero, altho there were apparent influences attempting to sway my judgement several times in my life. I'm not ready to fight to the death on this one ...so we'll just disagree. Best to you Timm PS..when did anyone say anything about my beliefs?
Cranky? This is me in a good mood...I finally got a car today! You did say that you considered yourself a fundamentalist Christian didn't you? And then you got cranky at Brian for speaking to the beliefs of same...
There are no studies that show definitively whether this is nature or nurture that I know of...
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:17 PM
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Cranky? This is me in a good mood...I finally got a car today! You did say that you considered yourself a fundamentalist Christian didn't you? And then you got cranky at Brian for speaking to the beliefs of same...
There are no studies that show definitively whether this is nature or nurture that I know of...
Somer: that's great about the car! I gave Brian a bad time because he purported to know the mind of a Fundamentalist Christian,of which he is not! That would be like me saying I know the beliefs and ways of the Wiccans! I agree with you about the studies,just shared my experiences. BEST Timm
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:29 PM
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I gave Brian a bad time because he purported to know the mind of a Fundamentalist Christian,of which he is not!
I DID NOT! I DID NOT! I DID NOT!



Really though, I didn't.
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:34 PM
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I DID NOT! I DID NOT! I DID NOT!



Really though, I didn't.
OH JOY!...when you say this is a classic case of "something" you are indeed purporting to know it! Please say that you understand this and you were just pulling my leg!
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:19 PM
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Cranky? This is me in a good mood...I finally got a car today! You did say that you considered yourself a fundamentalist Christian didn't you? And then you got cranky at Brian for speaking to the beliefs of same...
There are no studies that show definitively whether this is nature or nurture that I know of...
I think they have proven that there is a genetic component in most cases. I believe they discovered that a certain chromosome in the brain is different in gay people. I'll see if I can find an article about it.
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:23 PM
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I think they have proven that there is a genetic component in most cases. I believe they discovered that a certain chromosome in the brain is different in gay people. I'll see if I can find an article about it.
Here is an article that provides research that shows a genetic component.

http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/heal...out531088.html
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:30 PM
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Here is an article that provides research that shows a genetic component.

http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/heal...out531088.html
I wouldn't hang my hat on this just yet....needs alot more research.
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Old 12-07-2006, 01:50 PM
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At the other end..you're saying gays are born that way?
i think so.
i was born straight. it's not like i made a conscience decision to like men. i just do. a LOT. lol
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