NJ Sports Betting: Six years later, it’s official in New Jersey

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Exactly, but you got to think that if NJ or the US government is going to go into the gambling business, that there are going to be wide scale crackdowns on the illegal competition.

a piece of history...when simulcasting became the new game in town, it didn't take long for the feds to shut down all the hoss bookies, because they were competition. They didn't arrest everybody, just told them all that they had a good run, but that run had ended, and they couldn't take action anymore. The bookies didn't like it, but had no choice. Don't forget, that payphones weren't even allowed to be used during racing at the track.\

95 % percent of locals have sights in costa rica. they pay $20 a head per client. settle up day is still the same. you can post funds, or bet on credit. They don't have to sit there answering phones or do anything. for the bettor it is the ultimate convenience...huge paying ML parlays, 2nd half lines instantly, cross sports betting. They give you the opportunity for value, like in the hosses.
just a quick example...monday night, woke up after the Steelers game started, there was one hockey game, so i take a small parlay on edmonton
+150, under 5 1/2 goals +105, and the Giants with Bumgarner on tuesday. laying only $88 to win $739. it seems more like betting hosses that way. Bet a little, win a lot. with the advent of money lines on almost every college game within reason, and every pro game, including 1st half lines, they have made it betor friendly. unlike hossracing where thet take 25% and 5% right off the top of big scores.

for thursday and sunday...the bears +220, san diego +7 1/2, baltimore +1...$78 to win $852.

its like spending $72 in the pick 4 for half a buck and it paying $3400 for a deuce

[freddymo]

Here is a really good synopsis on the matter:

http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2014/...r-against.html

Its embarrassing people in US have to feel like criminals betting offshore or with a book. How great would it be to have sports books at Tracks and why does anyone care to stop it?

[Kasept]

Update.. http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2014/...g-chances.html

Answer from Judge Shipp could come this afternoon.

[asudevil]

http://m.reviewjournal.com/business/...ing-new-jersey

[asudevil]

David Purdum [ARCHIVE]

ESPN.com | October 24, 2014
A U.S. District Judge granted a temporary restraining order to the NCAA, NFL and other major professional sports leagues Friday, crushing a New Jersey racetrack's hopes of offering legal sports betting this weekend.

After a wild week of rapid-fire legal filings, Judge Michael Shipp ruled the sports leagues would suffer irreparable harm if thoroughbred track Monmouth Park began accepting sports bets Sunday as planned.

It's a deflating blow for New Jersey, which is trying desperately to help its ailing gaming industry. Four Atlantic City casinos have closed, and thousands of workers have been laid off.

New Jersey believes Las Vegas-style sports betting would provide a spark and has been battling the leagues for more than two years.

But this case still isn't over. More hearings in district court and the Third Circuit Court of Appeals are expected. Both courts have previously ruled against New Jersey's sports betting efforts.

Before it's over, the Department of Justice also could weigh in. For now, though, the NCAA, NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB have stopped bettors from legally wagering on their games in New Jersey.

The leagues filed suit Monday, asking for a permanent injunction and claiming New Jersey's latest sports betting legislation, the 2014 Sports Wagering Law, violates the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992 (PASPA). PASPA prohibits states from "authorizing, operating, advertising, promoting or licensing" sports betting in all but four states: Nevada, Delaware, Montana and Oregon.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by asudevil

David Purdum [ARCHIVE]

ESPN.com | October 24, 2014
A U.S. District Judge granted a temporary restraining order to the NCAA, NFL and other major professional sports leagues Friday, crushing a New Jersey racetrack's hopes of offering legal sports betting this weekend.

After a wild week of rapid-fire legal filings, Judge Michael Shipp ruled the sports leagues would suffer irreparable harm if thoroughbred track Monmouth Park began accepting sports bets Sunday as planned.

It's a deflating blow for New Jersey, which is trying desperately to help its ailing gaming industry. Four Atlantic City casinos have closed, and thousands of workers have been laid off.

New Jersey believes Las Vegas-style sports betting would provide a spark and has been battling the leagues for more than two years.

But this case still isn't over. More hearings in district court and the Third Circuit Court of Appeals are expected. Both courts have previously ruled against New Jersey's sports betting efforts.

Before it's over, the Department of Justice also could weigh in. For now, though, the NCAA, NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB have stopped bettors from legally wagering on their games in New Jersey.

The leagues filed suit Monday, asking for a permanent injunction and claiming New Jersey's latest sports betting legislation, the 2014 Sports Wagering Law, violates the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992 (PASPA). PASPA prohibits states from "authorizing, operating, advertising, promoting or licensing" sports betting in all but four states: Nevada, Delaware, Montana and Oregon.

You can buy any legislation you want in this country...

[Pants II]

I find it hilarious ESPN would use "a devastating blow" when talking about anything NFL.

Mickey Mouse Club. The ruination of Merica.

[asudevil]

@AP: BREAKING: US judge nixes plan to allow sports betting at New Jersey casinos, tracks ; appeal expected.

[pointman]

Injunction now permanent.

http://www.covers.com/articles/artic...?theArt=395574

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Feds are going to destroy this...

Gave this out on 10-21

I know you are happy about it.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Gave this out on 10-21

It's beyond sad how much pleasure you seem to take in the denial of a scenario that would benefit a large group of people while having little or modest discernible impact on your obvious own self interest.

Originally Posted by Kasept

It's beyond sad how much pleasure you seem to take in a scenario that would benefit a large group of people while having little or modest discernible impact on your obvious own self interest.

[Pants II]

Is this confirmed?

Judge Shipp didn't want to be the one who granted this..... because his brother is in the NFL's coaching apprentice program, where he is looking to be a paid assistant program. Bill Walsh started this, Judge Shipp's brother played in the NFL for 3 yrs or so, and now is seeking employment as an assistant coach somewhere. There would have been a conflict of interest had the judge granted this for the state of NJ. ( his brother would definitely NOT get a job, had he approved this)

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Kasept

It's beyond sad how much pleasure you seem to take in the denial of a scenario that would benefit a large group of people while having little or modest discernible impact on your obvious own self interest.

While I have great respect for you personally, and the fabulous job you do professionally, the highlighted part of your statement is terribly false. There are scores of folks in the state of Nevada whom would be both directly and indirectly impacted by national-legal sports wagering. For many of us, it would be a devastating blow to our livelihoods.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by asudevil

While I have great respect for you personally, and the fabulous job you do professionally, the highlighted part of your statement is terribly false. There are scores of folks in the state of Nevada whom would be both directly and indirectly impacted by national-legal sports wagering. For many of us, it would be a devastating blow to our livelihoods.

What valid reason is there for Nevada to have a monopoly on Sports betting? How hallow an argument that sports betting will cause irreparable harm to the Sports organizations that are being bet on. If a judge allows that argument than sports betting should be stripped from Nevada. Makes no sense whatsoever other than to point out the outright corruptness that goes on in our country masquerading as a legal system.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by asudevil

While I have great respect for you personally, and the fabulous job you do professionally, the highlighted part of your statement is terribly false. There are scores of folks in the state of Nevada whom would be both directly and indirectly impacted by national-legal sports wagering. For many of us, it would be a devastating blow to our livelihoods.

That's preposterous. You're suggesting that #1, an overwhelmingly enormous percentage of Nevada visitors are ONLY coming there to sports bet and #2, they are going to collectively stop coming to Nevada if able to bet in NJ, or Delaware, or wherever. Neither is true. Have Ontario and Quebec residents stopped coming because they can sports bet through their lotteries?

Monopolists are always for the sanctity of their monopoly.. I get it. You'd howl though if similar conditions existed that nullified your ability to open a restaurant somewhere you wanted.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Kasept

That's preposterous. You're suggesting that #1, an overwhelmingly enormous percentage of Nevada visitors are ONLY coming there to sports bet and #2, they are going to collectively stop coming to Nevada if able to bet in NJ, or Delaware, or wherever. Neither is true. Have Ontario and Quebec residents stopped coming because they can sports bet through their lotteries?

Monopolists are always for the sanctity of their monopoly.. I get it. You'd howl though if similar conditions existed that nullified your ability to open a restaurant somewhere you wanted.

Also, once sports betting is legally accessible online (admittedly probably 10-15 years away but is coming), that rising tide will lift all boats and Nevada will easily recoup whatever minor losses it takes when its monopoly expires.

Originally Posted by asudevil

While I have great respect for you personally, and the fabulous job you do professionally, the highlighted part of your statement is terribly false. There are scores of folks in the state of Nevada whom would be both directly and indirectly impacted by national-legal sports wagering. For many of us, it would be a devastating blow to our livelihoods.

Who are these scores of people you speak of? What positions do they hold that would threaten their livelihood from sports wagering thousands of miles away.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

That's preposterous. You're suggesting that #1, an overwhelmingly enormous percentage of Nevada visitors are ONLY coming there to sports bet and #2, they are going to collectively stop coming to Nevada if able to bet in NJ, or Delaware, or wherever. Neither is true. Have Ontario and Quebec residents stopped coming because they can sports bet through their lotteries?

Monopolists are always for the sanctity of their monopoly.. I get it. You'd howl though if similar conditions existed that nullified your ability to open a restaurant somewhere you wanted.

Steve Stevens...lol