Discreet Cat's BC Plans Announced

[Downthestretch55]

I'd love to see them eat a super-sized slice of "humble pie".

[Danzig]

shame they aren't running consecutively, as i'd love to bet a discreet cat/discreet cat/ discreet cat pick three. not that it would pay much, everyone would be all over him...

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

That was pretty funny BTW...

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

even if he won all three it would only pay like $20 on the PK 4



I would still give my LEFT NUT to own him!

[paisjpq]

andy you have outdone yourself...LMAO

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Following the preliminaries to Discreet Cat's guaranteed victory in today's Jerome Handicap at Belmont over such luminaries as Nar and Quietly Go Goldolphin Stables, in their usually " throw caution to the wind " style, have announced an ambitious assault on this year's BC. They have contacted BC officials, who were more than willing to reshuffle the sequence of races in order to accomodate the man who filled the coffers of all breeders, and subsequently will be running Discreet Cat in the BC Sprint ( now the first race ), the BC Mile ( now the 4th race ) and either the BC Turf or the BC Classic.

While this aggressive schedule may seem unrealistic to some it is hardly surprising for both a horse so obviously better than any horse that ever lived and for as daring a stable as Godolphin. While they recognized that Discreet Cat would be making as many starts on November 4th as many of their charges make in a lifetime the Sheik was quick to point out " Special horses demand special situations ". In this time of shortened careers and careful placing this writer is proud to see the Sheik stepping out from the crowd.

Garrett Gomez, Discreet Cat's rider, was quick to point out that the BC Sprint was really going to take no more effort than Discreet Cat's normal prerace warmup. Thus he will be well warmed up for the BC Mile, and as Gomez said, we all know he is equally good on all surfaces. Thus both races will be mere cakewalks for this proven superstar.

While Godolphin is expected to then hold out for the Classic, there are some that believe Discreet Cat will run in the BC Turf simply to keep their options open for then returning in the Classic. As for those that think they will skip the Classic just to allow their other star, Bernardini, win that race, the Sheik scoffed at that notion. " Why would we allow an inferior beast such as Bernardini to steal the limelight from his obviously superior stablemate? "

I, for one, can hardly wait.

This post has helped me to see the stupidity of my thinking. What this sport needs more of is people without imagination. We need more people to stick with the traditional ways and to stop thinking outside of the box. We need to stop running fillies against the boys. That's stupid. Forget about what Winning Colors, Lady's Secret, Personal Ensign, and Serena's Song did. Girls shouldn't run against the boys. Pride has NO CHANCE of beating out Hurricane Run, Shirocco, and Deep Impact today in the Arc. Instead, she needs to be in the Prix Opera. Girls against girls, boys against boys. What else? Oh yeah, horses should NEVER switch surfaces because when u are good on one, u need to stay on that one because u can't be good on another. I wish the trainers of horses like Lava Man, John Henry, Giant's Causeway, and Secretariat would understand this simple truth. What else? Well, while we are at it, 3yo's shouldn't run against older. There are too many races for 3yo's to stick with their own kind and it makes no sense to step outside of their division. Guys like Neil Drysdale and Andre Fabre are obviously idiots. I mean, didn't Drysdale realize that Prized was a really good dirt horse, good enough to beat Sunday Silence in the Swaps? What was he thinking when he put Prized in the BC Turf as his grass debut? That Prized WON the race is irrelevant. It was a dumb move. And Fabre is really stupid. I mean he took a horse named Jolypha and ran her against just about EVERY logical training edict there is. To start, Jolypha was a multiple grade one winning, champion 3yo filly in France. So what does Fabre do with her? He ships her across the Atlantic to run her against males (older ones at that) in the BC Classic, her first start on dirt. It doesn't get more ridiculous than this does it? That she finished third, only beaten 1/2 length by our champion older male is irrelevant. It was a stupid idea to try it.

My point here? I guess I really don't have one. By his comments, I know I partly inspired BTW to write this post. It was actually pretty well written and pretty funny. But what is so wrong about me suggesting that it would be a good idea to run Discreet Cat in the BC Mile? Sure it would be his first start on grass but if he's really supposed to be an extraordinary horse, as I believe he is, shouldn't he be able to do extraordinary things? Prized could switch over with no problems. Giant's Causeway, Sakhee, Johannesburg, Arazi, Sheikh Albadou, Dayjur, Arcangues, Ibn Bey.....all horses that made their debut on a new surface in a BC race and either won or ran in the money. Why can't Discreet Cat do it? We know that the mile distance would probably be perfect for him. If he's good enough, they could win BC races with him and Bernardini and never have to run them against each other. Wouldn't that be ideal for them? Why is it such a silly idea?

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

King, I like your style. I think it was just supposed to be funny but it made the person that wrote it look like they have been living in a box.

[blackthroatedwind]

Yes, King Glorious, it is, of course, all about you. The Sheik, in fact, mentioned you in the press conference. Of course, and I know you understand this, I left you out so as not to steal thunder from this momentous occasion.

I did, however, credit you to my editor.

[Gander]

"Valid Notebook, in an all out drive to hold 2nd"

I'd like to know which race Durkin was watching.

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

If Godolphin doesnt send this guy in the BC Sprint, it may be the worst move by an owner that I've seen in a while. He would OWN that race...

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May

If Godolphin doesnt send this guy in the BC Sprint, it may be the worst move by an owner that I've seen in a while. He would OWN that race...

If they send him to the sprint, it may be the dumbest move ever by an owner.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Best horse I have ever seen run and i watch this stuff all day everyday. Those were not slow horses he beat

[blackthroatedwind]

This just in....NYRA has altered the conditions of today's finale and in a twisted BC prep Discreet Cat will be running in the 10th.

For purse money only of course.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This just in....NYRA has altered the conditions of today's finale and in a twisted BC prep Discreet Cat will be running in the 10th.

For purse money only of course.

You just can't stand watching a super horse, that is sad

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If they send him to the sprint, it may be the dumbest move ever by an owner.

True he's Classic material!!!

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If they send him to the sprint, it may be the dumbest move ever by an owner.

I agree. Racing to the lead in 22.88 is different than being pressured in 21.40 I don't think he has the natural speed to contend with the best sprinters in the world.

BTW, I am not sure what u are getting at when u say it's all about me. I'm asking a simple question here. Why is it so wrong to think outside of traditional paths when may have a horse of a generation?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I agree. Racing to the lead in 22.88 is different than being pressured in 21.40 I don't think he has the natural speed to contend with the best sprinters in the world.

BTW, I am not sure what u are getting at when u say it's all about me. I'm asking a simple question here. Why is it so wrong to think outside of traditional paths when may have a horse of a generation?

There will be no serious conversation allowed in this thread!

[Gander]

He doesnt have to be on the lead. He is as effective 5 lengths or so off the pace, which is where he'd be if he ran the fractions he ran today. What an amazing talent, hope he enters in a race with some meaning in it. Otherwise he'll just be another "What if".

[GPK]

Dont make me get Bethani in here to take care of you guys...

[ateamstupid]

My point was mistaken.

This horse is something special. But he's also fragile and lightly-raced. Running him in any BC race, be it the Sprint, Mile, Classic, whatever, is ridiculous off of wins over Rumspringa and Valid Notebook.

Do any of you realize how much that would put this potential superstar through the wringer? And why? So we get immediate satisfaction.

Can we please think bigger picture here? If this horse stays healthy (given that's a big if), we could possibly see the best handicap horse in a few decades next year.. But no, we have to see him in the SPRINT against the BEST SPRINTERS IN THE WORLD, or in the CLASSIC against the BEST DISTANCE HORSES IN THE WORLD, and we have to see it NOW.

It's totally short-sighted and unnecessary. I think Godolphin is doing what's right by the horse, and honestly, as much as everyone dislikes the Sheiks, they seem to be among the best at managing their horses in the U.S.