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Old 08-03-2012, 12:55 PM
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/trending/...cene_era_.html


Antarctica has yielded implications about global warming that are chilling.

Drilling deep into the seabed just off Earth's southernmost continent, researchers have discovered remnants of a near-tropical rainforest that existed 50 million years ago.

During this period, known as the early Eocene era, the Earth experienced dramatic greenhouse conditions with high atmospheric carbon dioxide counts and palm trees growing around the South Pole
How could this have happened before without the aid of man?

Climate is cyclical?
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:19 PM
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Current scientists and professors, for the most part are far too egotistical to think anyone other than 'man' can cause weather phenomena.

This is why the current belief in America, professors know the economy far superior to anyone participating in it.

Kind of like the clumsy father who yells at his kid for missing a pitch or an obese mother scolding her beauty pagent daughter about her dance.
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:31 PM
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How could this have happened before without the aid of man?

Climate is cyclical?
It will be any day now when they dig deeper that they will find the SUV's of the lost society that produced so much greenhouse gasses that they perished.
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It will be any day now when they dig deeper that they will find the SUV's of the lost society that produced so much greenhouse gasses that they perished.
Nah, it will turn out to be the disposal of the hybrid batteries they used to try and save the world the first time that did them in.

No wait, that will be us.
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How could this have happened before without the aid of man?

Climate is cyclical?
maybe cavemen weren't just hunter/gatherers? perhaps when man invented the wheel back then, he had also invented an early version of the internal combustion engine, and we just hadn't discovered the fossils yet. what else can explain it?
that and apparently the much older version of the cow must have produced a lot more methane than our modern holsteins, etc.

cyclical?!?! you're obviously not paying attention. we can control weather, damnit. we just have to try harder.
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maybe cavemen weren't just hunter/gatherers? perhaps when man invented the wheel back then, he had also invented an early version of the internal combustion engine, and we just hadn't discovered the fossils yet. what else can explain it?
that and apparently the much older version of the cow must have produced a lot more methane than our modern holsteins, etc.

cyclical?!?! you're obviously not paying attention. we can control weather, damnit. we just have to try harder.
The absolute best thing about this thread is the use of the word "unprecedented", then the mention of this thing happening about every 150 years or so.
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Koch Brothers-Funded Climate Change Skeptic: 'Global Warming is Real and Man is Causing It'

Prominent climate change denier now admits he was wrong
Richard Muller, who directed a Koch-funded climate change project, has undergone a 'total turnaround' on his stance on global warming, which he now admits is caused by human activity

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/201...as-wrong-video

This, according to Richard A. Muller, professor of physics at UC Berkeley, MacArthur Fellow and co-founder of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project. Never mind that the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and hundreds of other climatologists around the world came to such conclusions years ago.

The difference now is the source: Muller is a long-standing, colorful critic of prevailing climate science, and the Berkeley project was heavily funded by the Charles Koch Charitable Foundation, which, along with its libertarian petrochemical billionaire founder Charles G. Koch, has a considerable history of backing groups that deny climate change.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,7372823.story

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(9 pm, 7/28): A NY Times op-ed by Richard Muller, BEST’s Founder and Scientific Director, has been published, “The Conversion of a Climate-Change Skeptic.”

CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...bon-pollution/
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The absolute best thing about this thread is the use of the word "unprecedented", then the mention of this thing happening about every 150 years or so.
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saw today that the number of tornadoes this year is down significantly from the usual number of twisters. that's good news.
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saw today that the number of tornadoes this year is down significantly from the usual number of twisters. that's good news.
As are the hurricanes and that forecast. Long term predictions for this winter are already positive for snow/temperatures.
Maybe the sky isn't exactly falling?
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As are the hurricanes and that forecast. Long term predictions for this winter are already positive for snow/temperatures.
Maybe the sky isn't exactly falling?
Short-term weather and long-term climate pattern change are two different things.

The main science man for the climate change deniers, the one guy that fed all the "science sucks and is wrong" "there are other points of view" Faux outrage conflating science with politics over the past many years (easier to hate that liberal jackass Al Gore than understand the subject he was talking about) has now recanted his former scientific position, and said he was wrong about his former interpretation of climate change data.

Now he says climate change is real, it's here, and it's man-made.
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As are the hurricanes and that forecast. Long term predictions for this winter are already positive for snow/temperatures.
Maybe the sky isn't exactly falling?
Maybe "people" are causing the hurricanes off the coast of Africa and they aren't planning on causing that many this year? Kinda goes along with the "people" are causing global warming theory.
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