Mitt Romney sold a drugged horse

[Riot]

The lawsuit was not dropped. The lawsuit wasn't dismissed. After 18 months, immediately before the lawsuit was to be heard in court, the lawsuit was settled out of court, at the request of the Romney's, in exchange for reimbursement of the sale price of the horse, Ann's name being taken off the papers legal, and no further action.

Nobody has to be a lawyer to be able to read

Watching the Obama-haters trip over themselves to defend the drugging a lame horse with painkillers to sell it is telling. And sad.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

The lawsuit was not dropped. The lawsuit wasn't dismissed. After 18 months, immediately before the lawsuit was to be heard in court, the lawsuit was settled out of court, at the request of the Romney's, in exchange for reimbursement of the sale price of the horse, Ann's name being taken off the papers legal, and no further action.

Nobody has to be a lawyer to be able to read

Watching the Obama-haters trip over themselves to defend the drugging a lame horse with painkillers to sell it is telling. And sad.

What is sad is that numerous posters in numerous threads have told you how arrogant and stupid you are and you believe that everyone else is the problem, not you.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

What is sad is that numerous posters in numerous threads have told you how arrogant and stupid you are and you believe that everyone else is the problem, not you.

What I "believe" is that Derby Trail is inhabited by several well-known common bullies, dick.wads that clearly possess very small, and very insecure, egos.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

What I "believe" is that Derby Trail is inhabited by several well-known common bullies, dick.wads that clearly possess very small, and very insecure, egos.

That is hilarious coming from the biggest bully on Derby Trail!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

That is hilarious coming from the biggest bully on Derby Trail!

Let's look back at the content that you've contributed to this thread ...

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

Let's look back at the content that you've contributed to this thread ...

Justing pointing out the fact that you are an omniscient arrogant moron who has no concept of the legal system is volumes more than the never ending nonsense you continue to contribute not only to this thread, but to this board in general.

What time do you get your meds, crazy lady?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Justing pointing out the fact that you are an omnicient arrogant moron who has no concept of the legal system is volumes more than the never ending nonsense you continue to contribute not only to this thread, but to this board in general.

What time do you get your meds, crazy lady?

Shorter Pointman: Blah, blah, name-calling, blah, blah, insult, blah, blah I hate you! Foot stomp! Anger! How dare you post when I don't like you!

You're pretty much a predictable, one-trick bully, Pointman

Oh - and speaking of arrogant morons, you spelled omniscient wrong

[AlreadyHome]

Originally Posted by Riot

What I "believe" is that Derby Trail is inhabited by several well-known common bullies, dick.wads that clearly possess very small, and very insecure, egos.

lol wow bullies @DT. very funny wow hahahahah

[geeker2]

It's threads like these that make you wish Morty was back

[Antitrust32]

dude.. Riot. After this thread you should never bash dell again.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by geeker2

It's threads like these that make you wish Morty was back

it's ridiculous, an obvious attempt to smear someone who wasn't even involved with the suit, or the horse.

but hey, it's obviously THE number one thing to worry about. not the economy, not wars, drone strikes, ndaa, unemployment, fast and furious, banking, housing, etc, etc.
witch hunts are sooo much more fun, and a distraction from all that really ails us. but why worry about what affects us all? rather, go after a woman who isn't a candidate, who was removed from the suit-how dare she be rich and ride horses. and this topic, on a website devoted to following a sport involving rich people with horses.
it is hilarious when you really start thinking about it. here, look at the jingly keys!

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's ridiculous, an obvious attempt to smear someone who wasn't even involved with the suit, or the horse.

but hey, it's obviously THE number one thing to worry about. not the economy, not wars, drone strikes, ndaa, unemployment, fast and furious, banking, housing, etc, etc.
witch hunts are sooo much more fun, and a distraction from all that really ails us. but why worry about what affects us all? rather, go after a woman who isn't a candidate, who was removed from the suit-how dare she be rich and ride horses. and this topic, on a website devoted to following a sport involving rich people with horses.
it is hilarious when you really start thinking about it. here, look at the jingly keys!

Ziggy I CAN'T BELIEVE you hate Obama more than you love Horseys!!

She's pulled that out about a half a dozen times in this thread

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's ridiculous, an obvious attempt to smear someone who wasn't even involved with the suit, or the horse.

but hey, it's obviously THE number one thing to worry about. not the economy, not wars, drone strikes, ndaa, unemployment, fast and furious, banking, housing, etc, etc.
witch hunts are sooo much more fun, and a distraction from all that really ails us. but why worry about what affects us all? rather, go after a woman who isn't a candidate, who was removed from the suit-how dare she be rich and ride horses. and this topic, on a website devoted to following a sport involving rich people with horses.
it is hilarious when you really start thinking about it. here, look at the jingly keys!

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Riot

Romneys pay off the filer of the lawsuit, try to have them sign confidentiality agreements (fail), and after the lawsuit moves through court for 18 months, panic and settle immediately before lawsuit goes to a judge in exchange for removing Romneys name from it ... and you think there was no money exchanged?

Originally Posted by Riot

No. One person's testimony caused Romney's to rush to settle the lawsuit, after 18 months, immediately before it was supposed to go before a judge. Unfortunately for Romney's, they failed to get confidentiality agreements signed. The other parties refused.

Originally Posted by Riot

The lawsuit was not dropped. The lawsuit wasn't dismissed. After 18 months, immediately before the lawsuit was to be heard in court, the lawsuit was settled out of court, at the request of the Romney's, in exchange for reimbursement of the sale price of the horse, Ann's name being taken off the papers legal, and no further action.

RE: "Payoff the filer," "in exchange for reimbursement of the sale price of the horse." Do you have any proof, or are you speculating? How do you know that there was a settlement "at the request of the Romneys?" How do you know that the filer didn't simply decide that she didn't have a good case against them? And IF they were "paying off" the filer, why wouldn't a confidentiality agreement have been a part of any settlement? More likely the absence of an agreement that the Romneys supposedly sought indicates that there was no payoff.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by OldDog

RE: "Payoff the filer," "in exchange for reimbursement of the sale price of the horse." Do you have any proof, or are you speculating? How do you know that there was a settlement "at the request of the Romneys?" How do you know that the filer didn't simply decide that she didn't have a good case against them? And IF they were "paying off" the filer, why wouldn't a confidentiality agreement have been a part of any settlement? More likely the absence of an agreement that the Romneys supposedly sought indicates that there was no payoff.

The statements of the horse owner, and of her lawyer, and of opposing lawyers, publicly, combined with what ultimately happened to the horse.

Continuing to say, "Ann Romney wasn't involved in the suit" shows undeniable ignorance of how the lawsuit, after 18-months of going through the court system, and days from going before a judge with a jury trial, was settled.

[Antitrust32]

I dont think anyone is denying that Ann Romney's name at one time was on the currently resolved lawsuit.

The problem with this thread starts with the title of the thread... which is disingenuous at best.. and an outright lie at worst.

Mitt Romney was not involved in this lawsuit, and it wasnt even his own horse!

end of story.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont think anyone is denying that Ann Romney's name at one time was on the currently resolved lawsuit.

The problem with this thread starts with the title of the thread... which is disingenuous at best.. and an outright lie at worst.

Mitt Romney was not involved in this lawsuit, and it wasnt even his own horse!

end of story.

Mitt Romney pays the bills, takes the horses as a deduction on his joint return as an owner in the Romney "horse farm business", benefited from the profit from the sale, gave the trainer the loan to purchase the land that the Romney's have a house upon (the farm) on the west coast, hired the trainer, pays his salary, continues to work intimately with the trainer as an employee.

The Romneys made $20,000 profit over their original purchase price by selling the lame, but doped sound, horse with ringbone. Excellent horse business deal.

And after the lawsuit, the Romneys still support this trainer.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Riot

The statements of the horse owner, and of her lawyer, and of opposing lawyers, publicly, combined with what ultimately happened to the horse.

Continuing to say, "Ann Romney wasn't involved in the suit" shows undeniable ignorance of how the lawsuit, after 18-months of going through the court system, and days from going before a judge with a jury trial, was settled.

Where are these statements published? I would like to read them so that I might be "ignorant" no more.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Where are these statements published? I would like to read them so that I might be "ignorant" no more.

Good grief? why start now? You've already offered your opinion, apparently before reading what has been publicly available on the subject. As have many others on this thread

I posted a couple links with link-throughs and detailed info at the start of the thread, and a simple google gives much information. The expert witness testimony, and parts of Ann Romneys deposition.

You know - for those folks that want information before they make up their minds

Maybe one of the highly-educated lawyers around here could offer an opinion on what the "Defendant Sanctions" the judge placed upon Romney and her trainer could involve? I seriously don't know - what type of stuff gets a judge angry enough to sanction the defendants before the jury trial occurs?

Why did the defendant's lawyer try to get the suing party to sign "keep silent" agreements? (refused)

Or, we can discuss what Thoroughbred racing and sport horse owners should do, when they have a lame horse, uninsured for that lamness, that can no longer do their job, and their trainer/legal agent sells the animal for them as "sound", but then the owner is sued as the horse actually was not sound, ends up not being able to do the work as alleged when sold, and was found to be loaded with multiple painkillers during the sale. What should that owner do? Should they stick with that trainer? Enjoy the $20K profit and say "suck it, buyer" and settle out of court? Fire the trainer and make the sale right with the buyer?

[Clip-Clop]

Caveat Emptor.