I want your opinion on this...

[pmayjr]

... I've made mention to this yesterday, but I can't get this off of my mind. I'm not trying to scrunge up any conspiracies, but I still think I got screwed a little.

I hit the $1 exacta on the BC mile yesterday. 24-1 over 5-1 right? It only paid $12 off the $1. I think it should've been closer to $200.

Here's why-
It's a 14 horse field, there's an ass-load of handle which were making for nice payouts all day, and I had a longshot over like the 2nd or 3rd favroite... I was just realy disappointed by the payoff? Am I justified?

I think $246 is right. Out of curiosity, why do you think it should have paid more?

and you also have to keep in mind that the odds dont have anything to do with the exacta payouts. Although they are an indicator.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

All depends on how the horses were played. Sounds like Aragorn was played heavy in exactas underneath. Only thing I can think of.

I know I had Aragorn underneath. I am sure people bet had Aragorn on the bottom along with Gorella.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

and you also have to keep in mind that the odds dont have anything to do with the exacta payouts. Although they are an indicator.

The beauty of the tote board. So many people think win odds are always indicative of other pools and they are not. So many people play exactas, you gotta keep up with the payoffs. Some exacta combinations are way overbet compared to what the win pool. Its also why so many other type of bets where one has no idea what the size of the pool can be pleasantly suprising, or absolutely dissappointing.

Originally Posted by pgardn

The beauty of the tote board. So many people think win odds are always indicative of other pools and they are not. So many people play exactas, you gotta keep up with the payoffs. Some exacta combinations are way overbet compared to what the win pool. Its also why so many other type of bets where one has no idea what the size of the pool can be pleasantly suprising, or absolutely dissappointing.

You are so correct. Plus you have no idea how many tickets there with the combination you have in relation to the pool. When I bet an exacta, I typically wait to last possible moment to make sure the exactas will pays make sense. I will never forget a time at Keeneland when Julie Krone was on a 5/2 shot and Willie Martinez was on a 2-1 shot in a 10 horse field and I looked at the exacta will pays and the Krone/Martinez combo paid $33 and the Martinez/Krone combo paid $20. I was like--HUH!!!!! Krone's horse was bet down from 6-1 so I went ahead and boxed them multiple times--the race came Krone/Martinez. I will never forget that.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

You are so correct. Plus you have no idea how many tickets there with the combination you have in relation to the pool. When I bet an exacta, I typically wait to last possible moment to make sure the exactas will pays make sense. I will never forget a time at Keeneland when Julie Krone was on a 5/2 shot and Willie Martinez was on a 2-1 shot in a 10 horse field and I looked at the exacta will pays and the Krone/Martinez combo paid $33 and the Martinez/Krone combo paid $20. I was like--HUH!!!!! Krone's horse was bet down from 6-1 so I went ahead and boxed them multiple times--the race came Krone/Martinez. I will never forget that.

Indeed those things can happen. It pays to watch the numbers. I dont think people get away with these things at larger tracks. Smaller tracks with a smaller number of bets can be wonderful places to find strange numbers.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

You are so correct. Plus you have no idea how many tickets there with the combination you have in relation to the pool. When I bet an exacta, I typically wait to last possible moment to make sure the exactas will pays make sense. I will never forget a time at Keeneland when Julie Krone was on a 5/2 shot and Willie Martinez was on a 2-1 shot in a 10 horse field and I looked at the exacta will pays and the Krone/Martinez combo paid $33 and the Martinez/Krone combo paid $20. I was like--HUH!!!!! Krone's horse was bet down from 6-1 so I went ahead and boxed them multiple times--the race came Krone/Martinez. I will never forget that.

In the Vosburgh the only reason I hit the exacta is because the Henny/War Front exacta and War Front/Henny exactas paid like triple what the same exactas paid with Silver Train in place of Henny despite Henny going off as the favorite. Amazing what you can find by looking at the probables.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

In the Vosburgh the only reason I hit the exacta is because the Henny/War Front exacta and War Front/Henny exactas paid like triple what the same exactas paid with Silver Train in place of Henny despite Henny going off as the favorite. Amazing what you can find by looking at the probables.

If you are an exacta better you have to get track of the will pays. How could you not!!!!!!!!!!

[pmayjr]

I know win odds and exacta payouts are 2 different animals. But they usually are indicators or what an exacta could be. I figured with the big 14 horse field, a few luke-warm favortes, and the fact that a longshot came in on top, and a big handle: I thought I deserved more. Also payoffs all day were coming in big.

Originally Posted by pmayjr

I know win odds and exacta payouts are 2 different animals. But they usually are indicators or what an exacta could be. I figured with the big 14 horse field, a few luke-warm favortes, and the fact that a longshot came in on top, and a big handle: I thought I deserved more. Also payoffs all day were coming in big.

The key is "few luke-warm favs." That means most exotic bettors went pretty deep in their tickets. Basically, there was a single to take most of the money in the pool.