Tampa Bay Downs 2011-2012 Meet

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

I get wanting to stick up for your home track, I really do. It's respectable and I would do the same.

But you realize Beyer wrote the piece as someone who loves Tampa right? You've got an entire thread here of people who don't know what to do with Ness horses because when a guy is winning at nearly 50% you just can't pitch any of his horses with any confidence from a multi race exotic and your response is Beyer should spend more time with Formulator?

Whether you agree or not, he's one of if not the only journalist in our sport who will write about real topics. I'm not saying everything he says is right, but your criticism here seems misplaced and I say that as someone who respects your opinion a great deal as you know.

I've been looking at Tampa a bit more recently thanks to some peer pressure from Golfer. My one issue is some (not all) of the races are unplayable when Ness has a runner. I'm sure not being on TVG has impacted overall handle, but people avoiding races where Ness is involved has to be a big part of it.

What is so bad about pointing that out?

Not a thing - but when they guy has been winning 40% there for the past 4 years, it's a little disingenuous to pretend that now he's the major problem and why the handle's down - that was my only point. You can't ignore the fact that not having the races on TVG - with the cross promotion virtually every half hour, hasn't been the major impact to the handle - nothing else has really changed.
I get it - I hate the SOB and wish they'd ship him out of here on a rail tomorrow. He does impact wagering negatively in that he almost always has to be included, so you essentially have to win twice - you not only need to pick the winner, but you have to beat him too just to get a price. And you lose 55% of those includes. It sucks.