Elway trying to draft the next Elway

[MaTH716]

Chuck, they had every opportunity in the world to open that game up very early last night. They did have some moments where I said to myself, that they really aren't that bad. Then they had some moments where I thought that they were worse than I thought.

I can't believe how many passes Brandon Marshall continues to drop. While the defense did play well at times, it very well could have been a product of the Jets futility. But the lack of a pass rush is an absolute killer and that's what's going to due them in on most Sundays. I also couldn't believe at 0-4 that Sparano decided to sit on the ball with about 40 seconds left and a timeout before the half (while behind).

I still think their schedule is brutal. The majority of those teams can throw the ball very well. They better win vs the Broncos next week otherwise there's a chance that they could run the table the wrong way.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Chuck, they had every opportunity in the world to open that game up very early last night. They did have some moments where I said to myself, that they really aren't that bad. Then they had some moments where I thought that they were worse than I thought.

I can't believe how many passes Brandon Marshall continues to drop. While the defense did play well at times, it very well could have been a product of the Jets futility. But the lack of a pass rush is an absolute killer and that's what's going to due them in on most Sundays. I also couldn't believe at 0-4 that Sparano decided to sit on the ball with about 40 seconds left and a timeout before the half (while behind).

I still think their schedule is brutal. The majority of those teams can throw the ball very well. They better win vs the Broncos next week otherwise there's a chance that they could run the table the wrong way.

You watched that game last night? Oof.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

You watched that game last night? Oof.

Went to bed after the first drive of the second half. At that point I couldn't take anymore.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

They better win vs the Broncos next week otherwise there's a chance that they could run the table the wrong way.

The desire of both teams to lose this game is very, very strong. I can't wait to see how it plays out. Whichever team loses will be extremely LUCK--eeeee.

[King Glorious]

Say what you want about him but Tebow is clutch. I know they had to get lucky recovering the onside kick to get the ball back and he was pretty dreadful the first three plus quarters. But when it counted most, he delivered and his fourth quarter numbers weren't bad. I've long felt that the guy deserves a shot and that he could be successful. Same with Colt McCoy. Those guys had too much success at too high a level, especially Tebow, to not be able to play. I think he's going to be ok. He just has a knack for winning.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Say what you want about him but Tebow is clutch. I know they had to get lucky recovering the onside kick to get the ball back and he was pretty dreadful the first three plus quarters. But when it counted most, he delivered and his fourth quarter numbers weren't bad. I've long felt that the guy deserves a shot and that he could be successful. Same with Colt McCoy. Those guys had too much success at too high a level, especially Tebow, to not be able to play. I think he's going to be ok. He just has a knack for winning.

ESPN could not be more thrilled. Content for a week.

[herkhorse]

http://youtu.be/gUyu5prWjTE

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Say what you want about him but Tebow is clutch. I know they had to get lucky recovering the onside kick to get the ball back and he was pretty dreadful the first three plus quarters. But when it counted most, he delivered and his fourth quarter numbers weren't bad. I've long felt that the guy deserves a shot and that he could be successful. Same with Colt McCoy. Those guys had too much success at too high a level, especially Tebow, to not be able to play. I think he's going to be ok. He just has a knack for winning.

Could you be any more malleable? He fell behind 15-0 to the Dolphins. Wake me up when his 'knack for winning' helps them beat a professional team. The guy sucks.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Could you be any more malleable? He fell behind 15-0 to the Dolphins. Wake me up when his 'knack for winning' helps them beat a professional team. The guy sucks.

True it was the Dolphins and true they were lucky but the guy performed in crunch time. Say what you will, and he's easy to be critical of, but I've seen many many worse first games. Karma is powerful, lets see how it translates to the NFL.

[jms62]

To me he looked lost out there like the game was moving way too fast for him. Kind of like a guy that was confident that he could run with the ball but nothing else and looked to run every chance he got.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by jms62

To me he looked lost out there like the game was moving way too fast for him. Kind of like a guy that was confident that he could run with the ball but nothing else and looked to run every chance he got.

Sorta like Vick in his Falcon years?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

True it was the Dolphins and true they were lucky but the guy performed in crunch time. Say what you will, and he's easy to be critical of, but I've seen many many worse first games. Karma is powerful, lets see how it translates to the NFL.

A Week 7 game against a winless team isn't 'crunch time'. Like I said, let's see him help beat a good team, then we'll talk. And I don't understand why people think this was his first game. He made two starts at the end of last season.

[hi_im_god]

i thought christian ponder looked pretty good against the packers. he might have a future as a middling nfl starter.

tim tebow, on the other hand, looked just awful against miami as anyone without tebow colored glasses knows. he was horribly inaccurate and made bad decisions. he is what we thought he was.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

True it was the Dolphins and true they were lucky but the guy performed in crunch time. Say what you will, and he's easy to be critical of, but I've seen many many worse first games. Karma is powerful, lets see how it translates to the NFL.

if he hadn't played poorly the rest of the game, they wouldn't have needed a come from behind win.

hey, no one tries harder than tebow...doesn't mean he has what it takes to be a top qb. karma...pfft. has nothing to do with it.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if he hadn't played poorly the rest of the game, they wouldn't have needed a come from behind win.

hey, no one tries harder than tebow...doesn't mean he has what it takes to be a top qb. karma...pfft. has nothing to do with it.

Karma has a role in everything if you believe in it (as I do), if not then it's easy to dismiss. Regardless of your beliefs, the truth about Tebow will be revealed over time, not as a basis of a few games or preconceived ideas.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if he hadn't played poorly the rest of the game, they wouldn't have needed a come from behind win.

hey, no one tries harder than tebow...doesn't mean he has what it takes to be a top qb. karma...pfft. has nothing to do with it.

This is cerebral talk---stay out of it.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

True it was the Dolphins and true they were lucky but the guy performed in crunch time. Say what you will, and he's easy to be critical of, but I've seen many many worse first games. Karma is powerful, lets see how it translates to the NFL.

I'm pretty sure he started 3 games last year. Won one of them passing for over 300 against Houston.

[horseofcourse]

I still think the title of this thread is all this is about. I'm pretty sure Elway wants Tebow to fail and he wants to get Luck. It is no coincidence the Broncos traded by leaps and bounds their best offensive player (Brandon Lloyd) before Tebow's first start. So he's gonna get to play without their top threat too the rest of the year. Perhaps this is simply because Lloyd is a free agent and he was gone anyway and they want to play Thomas full time, but this was a really bad football team whether Tebow plays or not anyway. Trading Brandon Lloyd made the team even worse. It's gonna be really tough to out do the Dolphins and Colts for the Broncos now with that win however.