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Old 09-19-2011, 09:06 PM
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To be honest, I'm not really concerned where his next start is going to be as I think yesterday was the day to have him (thanks Jaime Spencer).

But the reason I played him yesterday was I wasn't really crazy about any of the American horses minus Courageous Cat. In hindsight I definitely overlooked Turrallure, which was a mistake, although it took a flawless ride for him to get home.

I thought Dance and Dance's last was definitely good enough to win this and although it might seem a bit elementary I like the fact he was facing huge fields overseas. He beat home 26 others three back at Ascot, 17 others at Epsom and 16 others at York. In a field where I thought our horses weren't much I wanted to take a shot with a Euro with pretty good form guessing he might be good enough to win.
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Old 09-19-2011, 09:15 PM
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Interesting.

Thanks, guys!
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Old 09-19-2011, 09:19 PM
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To be honest, I'm not really concerned where his next start is going to be as I think yesterday was the day to have him (thanks Jaime Spencer).

But the reason I played him yesterday was I wasn't really crazy about any of the American horses minus Courageous Cat. In hindsight I definitely overlooked Turrallure, which was a mistake, although it took a flawless ride for him to get home.

I thought Dance and Dance's last was definitely good enough to win this and although it might seem a bit elementary I like the fact he was facing huge fields overseas. He beat home 26 others three back at Ascot, 17 others at Epsom and 16 others at York. In a field where I thought our horses weren't much I wanted to take a shot with a Euro with pretty good form guessing he might be good enough to win.
Hoss, I took the same approach and liked Dance and Dance for most of the same reasons you mentioned. I got blindsided myself by the winner with Leparoux giving him Rolls Royce ride.
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Old 09-20-2011, 06:02 AM
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Perfect Shirl maybe the wiseguy horse next time out, but she ran huge to almost get up. Tab for later.

For Dance and Dance one thing that turned me off of him was the trainer had never tasted graded success, even though he was a bit unlucky to Side Glances in his last in Europe in a gr 3, it seemed a bit of a stretch to me, not the strongest european contingent.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:15 AM
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For Dance and Dance one thing that turned me off of him was the trainer had never tasted graded success, even though he was a bit unlucky to Side Glances in his last in Europe in a gr 3, it seemed a bit of a stretch to me, not the strongest european contingent.
After watching the race, taking into account he was completely blocked for nearly the entire stretch, isn't it fair to say he was probably best on Sunday?

I realize this wasn't Europe's best but our milers aren't much as a whole. Vaughan hasn't won a stakes yet, but he's a pretty competent horseman. Didn't he break Dubail Millenium as a yearling?
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Old 09-20-2011, 03:51 PM
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:21 PM
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What a startling public admission.
Hooray! It's nice to see you show a pulse and not act like such an old lady!
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:23 PM
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I meant to ask this before the race and it's not important but does anyone know why exactly Johan Victoire stopped being the jock for Right One?

Was there a falling out or something?
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:54 PM
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I meant to ask this before the race and it's not important but does anyone know why exactly Johan Victoire stopped being the jock for Right One?

Was there a falling out or something?
Because Right One has been racing in America all year?
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:00 PM
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Before he came here though... I thought there were 2 races at Deauville with Tony Piccone up but I was wrong and there's only one so just ignore me.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:38 AM
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Though it might seem like I am piggybacking here, I ask: what do you think of NYRA's all-stakes Pick 4 on October 1? Should it have two stakes and two MSW State-bred or claiming races interspersed within it?
That's a foolish comparison, and you know it.
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