Tyler Baze - put the whiskey down, son

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Posting this here, because it's really not new thready worthy.

But just noticed that Kala Stra(54 4 1 2) has more wins at Del Mar than Mike Smith (58 3 4 5 {one win is from that ridiculous match race}). I think that's unbeeelieevable.........

Whoa I had no idea!

Fun thread.

Back to Tyler... Poor kid has been through a lot. I wish him all the best.

[Stickhorse]

I saw a HRTV's Inside Information piece about Tyler Baze. It commented about his struggles with alcohol but was probably produced about a year ago.

Anybody have an idea what is happening with Tyler now?

The DRF link below says he remains suspended and still has not satisfactorily served a 30 Rehab Program mandated by the SoCal stewards.

http://www.drf.com/news/hollywood-ty...-entered-rehab

Originally Posted by Stickhorse

Anybody have an idea what is happening with Tyler now?

[Danzig]

i would imagine what's happening with tyler is that he's still denying he has a problem, that he can quit at any time, but right now he doesn't want to quit drinking.
he will either realize he has a problem and do something about it...or he will decide he doesn't, and will end up dying in an alleyway. feel bad for his family-it can't be fun watching someone self-destruct and be helpless to do anything about it.

[Stickhorse]

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I guess the poor guy has taken to having to book his own mounts for his comeback.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Very classy. You should be so proud. Humor at another hurting human's expense.

What makes the internet such a lovely place.

Hold your head high. It must be a great day for you.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Very classy. You should be so proud. Humor at another hurting human's expense.

What makes the internet such a lovely place.

Hold your head high. It must be a great day for you.

what was wrong with it? the guy is mocking someone who is wasting his life and talents. i don't know that tyler is the victim here. his issues are self-inflicted. he has the ability to rise above it, but right now chooses not to. if he's hurting, it's his own fault.

Originally Posted by Danzig

what was wrong with it? the guy is mocking someone who is wasting his life and talents. i don't know that tyler is the victim here. his issues are self-inflicted. he has the ability to rise above it, but right now chooses not to. if he's hurting, it's his own fault.

If you don't know what's wrong with that posting. Explaining it to you would be useless.

Is it the FAULT of someone that's hurting because of Cancer, or MS or any other debilitating disease? None of those self inflicted.

Your ignorance and insensitivity is even more frightening than Coach's hate.

Unbeileveable!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

If you don't know what's wrong with that posting. Explaining it to you would be useless.

Is it the FAULT of someone that's hurting because of Cancer, or MS or any other debilitating disease?

Your ignorance and insensitivity is even more frightening than Coach's hate.

Unblieveable!

sorry, i've never bought into it being a disease. you can't decide to put down the cancer bottle, or the ms bottle. i think they started calling it a disease so that insurance companies would start covering the treatment, but i'm sure that's just the cynic in me. as for it being an addiction, so hard to overcome...i smoked for 15 years, which was half my life when i quit cold turkey. so, even tho many say it's such a hard nut to crack, i didn't find it to be so at all. you just have to make up your mind. tyler needs to get to that point-the sooner the better.
and funny, those times i have come to your defense on here in the past, i bet you didn't think i was ignorant and insensitive. appreciate that.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

If you don't know what's wrong with that posting. Explaining it to you would be useless.

Is it the FAULT of someone that's hurting because of Cancer, or MS or any other debilitating disease? None of those self inflicted.

Your ignorance and insensitivity is even more frightening than Coach's hate.

Unbeileveable!

Yeah Vic....... an alcoholic who has had many chances to straighten out and people who get cancer is a great comparison. You are a jagoff of the highest order.

Nice job with that whining letter where you completely threw Wrona under the bus. Funny coming from a guy who all the time preaches about the announcers "brotherhood". What's next? You gonna slash John Dooley's tires hoping he will miss work and get fired from Fair Grounds....then send a letter begging for the job?

[trackrat59]

Originally Posted by Danzig

what was wrong with it? the guy is mocking someone who is wasting his life and talents. i don't know that tyler is the victim here. his issues are self-inflicted. he has the ability to rise above it, but right now chooses not to. if he's hurting, it's his own fault.

Perhaps not. That's what's wrong with your theory.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

Perhaps not. That's what's wrong with your theory.

alcoholics can't rise above it? really? i worked with a guy who realized he had a problem and quit drinking years ago. i think he rose above it quite nicely.

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Very classy. You should be so proud. Humor at another hurting human's expense.

What makes the internet such a lovely place.

Hold your head high. It must be a great day for you.

It wasn't meant to be classy, you histrionic fop.

Humor at the expense of others is timeless.

The internet was a lovely place. You'll have internet 2.0 soon where speech is monitored and censored so your fragile mind can be at ease.

It was a great day. Sunny and 70.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It wasn't meant to be classy, you histrionic fop.

Humor at the expense of others is timeless.

The internet was a lovely place. You'll have internet 2.0 soon where speech is monitored and censored so your fragile mind can be at ease.

It was a great day. Sunny and 70.

If you posted a picture of an aids baby would that be funny and timeless?

Alcoholism is a disease. To belittle someone, especially in a public forum for having a disease is the act of a heartless, hateful, coward.

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

If you posted a picture of an aids baby would that be funny and timeless?

Alcoholism is a disease. To belittle someone, especially in a public forum for having a disease is the act of a heartless, hateful, coward.

Anything can be funny under the right circumstances. Right now I am in stitches over a man with more estrogen than most women calling me a coward for making fun of an adult midget who is a confirmed coward who won't take the responsibility and get help.

The weak defending the weak. Gfy, woman.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I am not getting into this battle but this series of pics culminating in the passed out cigarette guy is hilarious.

My two cents on alcoholism? Try working with the alcoholic when you have to carry their weight on the job and I bet some of this sensitivity goes away pretty quickly.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I am not getting into this battle but this series of pics culminating in the passed out cigarette guy is hilarious.

My two cents on alcoholism? Try working with the alcoholic when you have to carry their weight on the job and I bet some of this sensitivity goes away pretty quickly.

I agree with this, the closer you are and the more you are impacted the less compassion you will have.

The most interesting thing about this thread to me and how it differs from Cancer etc..... Kev said if he goes to the bar he knows he will drink and not be able to stop. He has been able to avoid this temptation and not drink for a while now. People with cancer or other awful diseases do not have this option. While both are diseases I believe that people with alcoholism, at least in some cases, can make choices that will keep them healthy.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I agree with this, the closer you are and the more you are impacted the less compassion you will have.

The most interesting thing about this thread to me and how it differs from Cancer etc..... Kev said if he goes to the bar he knows he will drink and not be able to stop. He has been able to avoid this temptation and not drink for a while now. People with cancer or other awful diseases do not have this option. While both are diseases I believe that people with alcoholism, at least in some cases, can make choices that will keep them healthy.

Going into a bar doesn't actually bother me. Being around alcohol doesn't bother me in the least. Hell, I bought the boys a few rounds in Tampa and had no problem carrying 2-3 beers in my hands. There was no temptation there at all for me.

The difficult thing for me to convey and equally difficult for the average drinker to understand is that when an alcoholic is in the depths of his illness, there is no choice. That is the power that alcohol can have over people. When it comes to alcohol, my mind and body are wired completely different than others. I never expect anyone to understand that, just as I can't understand people that are able to have just a few.

As a group, we can go around and around about this topic all day, but just like most controversial topics, there is always gonna be 2 sides and rarely will one side be able to change the view points of others. Personally, I am blessed to have family and friends in my life that, even though they may not understand alcoholism, they support me in my effort to remain sober.

[tanner12oz]

my girlfriend (unhappily) is an alcoholic and it's a nightmare....she comes from a whole family of boozers and she literally turns into a monster when she drinks...it's like jekyll and hyde...can't tell you how many times i have been unable to drag her out of a bar or away from a bottle at 3am only to be berated by insults or having random objects thrown at me for trying to get her on track...next morning rules around with things and shambles and she doesn't even acknowledge anything happened....

it's downright scary how alcohol makes people and until you are around someone who cannot control themselves you would never know...