i thought cutting was the goal?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

as I said I watched it live. It was sickening the first time and does not warrant a second viewing.

So which package do you like better: Obama's $4 trillion in cuts, or the $2 trillion in cuts?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

So which package do you like better: Obama's $4 trillion in cuts, or the $2 trillion in cuts?

As I said, you are naive. Increased taxes are increased taxes not cuts. Savings reaped by consolidating medicare and Obamacare are fiction. That leaves $700 billion in non-discretionary spending and $400 billion further cuts in defense. So the $4 trillion is in reality $1.1 trillion and over 12 years. That's less than a paltry $100 billion a year. Which do you think I like better?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

As I said, you are naive. Increased taxes are increased taxes not cuts. Savings reaped by consolidating medicare and Obamacare are fiction. That leaves $700 billion in non-discretionary spending and $400 billion further cuts in defense. So the $4 trillion is in reality $1.1 trillion and over 12 years. That's less than a paltry $100 billion a year. Which do you think I like better?

It's pretty clear that you didn't actually watch the press conference, and your knowlege of public policy is not much more than a Sarah Palin-like word soup.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's pretty clear that you didn't actually watch the press conference, and your knowlege of public policy is not much more than a Sarah Palin-like word soup.

if there's a 'sucker born everyday' you were born over a 3-day holiday.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

if there's a 'sucker born everyday' you were born over a 3-day holiday.

Dell said, "Obama made it very clear today he is not into cutting anything".
"I did [watch the press conference] that's how I know instead of proposing cuts he gave excuses why we can't."

Except that within the first three minutes, Obama called for cuts to the discretionary budget, defense spending, and alterations to Medicare, for a 10-year plan of savings.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Dell said, "Obama made it very clear today he is not into cutting anything".
"I did [watch the press conference] that's how I know instead of proposing cuts he gave excuses why we can't."

Except that within the first three minutes, Obama called for cuts to the discretionary budget, defense spending, and alterations to Medicare, for a 10-year plan of savings.

then why was the house version of the appropriations bill, which is higher than fiscal '11, 9 billion LESS than obama's request?? how is he in favor of cutting, if his was higher then theirs, which is almost 3% higher than last years?? that doesn't make sense.
but then, if you're happy with someone who is trying to put the kibosh on something he is supposedly in favor of (dadt) then i guess he doesn't have to make any sense at all where you're concerned.
as for spending elsewhere, one of his first moves was to increase budgets across the board in government agencies.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

then why was the house version of the appropriations bill, which is higher than fiscal '11, 9 billion LESS than obama's request??

We are talking about what Obama said at his press conference today. Not previous Republican budget proposals coming out of the House. Obama has nothing to do with creating the opposing party's appropriations bills.

but then, if you're happy with someone who is trying to put the kibosh on something he is supposedly in favor of (dadt) then i guess he doesn't have to make any sense at all where you're concerned.

Huh? Excuse me? Sense? You are trying to compare what Obama said today to a previous GOP appropriations bill! That's beyond absurd.

I'm not as black and white as you appear to be. I said I was happy with Obama, and yes, indeed, I am. Will definitely vote for him again 2012 at this point. I have also clearly said here previously that I am not happy with everything he's done, including some of the DADT. But DADT is passed, isn't it? That's the first step to implementation. Any chance of that under McCain-Palin? Never in a million years.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Dell said, "Obama made it very clear today he is not into cutting anything".
"I did [watch the press conference] that's how I know instead of proposing cuts he gave excuses why we can't."

Except that within the first three minutes, Obama called for cuts to the discretionary budget, defense spending, and alterations to Medicare, for a 10-year plan of savings.

posted previously

Originally Posted by dellinger63
As I said, you are naive. Increased taxes are increased taxes not cuts. Savings reaped by consolidating medicare and Obamacare are fiction. That leaves $700 billion in non-discretionary spending and $400 billion further cuts in defense. So the $4 trillion is in reality $1.1 trillion and over 12 years. That's less than a paltry $100 billion a year. Which do you think I like better?

I think you left out some but I did watch the idiot and also know his numbers behind it. Perhaps you could have come up with something better than

Originally Posted by Riot
It's pretty clear that you didn't actually watch the press conference, and your knowlege of public policy is not much more than a Sarah Palin-like word soup.

Sybil like? Is that a pre-existing condition you're keeping from us?

[Danzig]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43773068...-capitol_hill/

House passes energy bill $6B below Obama's request
White House: bill jeopardizes economic growth and clean energy

WASHINGTON — As lawmakers argued over long-term deficit reduction, the Republican-led House on Friday cut 20 percent from President Barack Obama's budget request for energy and water projects.



now, as has been said so often, everyone recognizes that we have to spend less...
so, what are the thoughts on this? it seems that many say we need to cut, but then howl in protest when something does get cut.