2/18-20 (CD): Kentucky Derby Future Wager (Pool 1)

[hockey2315]

Santiva can't win the Derby. . . Tiz Blessed and Mucho Macho Man seem like the only ones I'd throw a few $ on for fun. . . The hope would be that MMM gets purchased privately and turned over to a better trainer.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Santiva can't win the Derby. . . Tiz Blessed and Mucho Macho Man seem like the only ones I'd throw a few $ on for fun. . . The hope would be that MMM gets purchased privately and turned over to a better trainer.

Santiva cant win the Derby, but Sway Away is the goods? Please DUDE..........
Tiz Blessed was sick and Brown has not a clue, plan or idea of what to do with him next. Article was in the Saturday Gazette.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Santiva cant win the Derby, but Sway Away is the goods? Please DUDE..........
Tiz Blessed was sick and Brown has not a clue, plan or idea of what to do with him next. Article was in the Saturday Gazette.

Santiva has proven that he's completely mediocre. . . He's a Giant's Causeway. . . I get it.

Sway Away just came off a lay-off for a trainer with terrible lay-off stats to run a 100 Beyer at a distance that factors to be much shorter than his best based on pedigree. He's not "the goods," but he is the type of horse who could put it all together in the right race. The only problem with him is that his close today looked better than it really was, so lots of otherwise clueless people will jump on the bandwagon.

I put $10 on Tiz Blessed just for fun. . . If he remains sick, I'll survive. As you know, I have THAS at 30-1 for a lot more money. . . he's 10-1 in Pool 1.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Santiva ran ok - but I still don't like him at all. No shot for the Derby.

At least Sway Away can be moved up and called an X Facor. The Factor still remains on my X Factor section as well ... but if I had to pick between Sway Away or The Factor for the Kentucky Derby .. I'd lean to Sway Away.

[NTamm1215]

I was completely underwhelmed by the 1-2 finishers of the Risen Star. I guess Mucho Macho Man is better around two turns but that was a slow pace and the 3-4 finishers both received poor rides.

Santiva never was good and still isn't. I'd need 250-1 to even be mildly interested.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Santiva ran ok - but I still don't like him at all. No shot for the Derby.

At least Sway Away can be moved up and called an X Facor. The Factor still remains on my X Factor section as well ... but if I had to pick between Sway Away or The Factor for the Kentucky Derby .. I'd lean to Sway Away.

Here is my other reason that I think you and a few others might at least understand my logic, even though you don't agree with it.

Mucho Macho Man probably got back to his 0.5 yesterday on the TG's. That means Santiva ran about that or maybe a 1, thus a top, he could be primed for a major effort depending on how many races they run him in. I think he moves forward, and I think he has a real shot at winning the LA Derby, and if he does, he is 10/1 in the next future pool. He is 45/1, I've bet worse before

[HaloWishingwell]

I took a small shot with Clubhouse Ride(127-1) to win and exacta bets with the major contenders. My major bet is on Stay Thirsty(40-1) to win and exacta bets with the major contenders back and forth

[Gate Dancer]

I couldn't resist putting $20 on Brethren, even if his odds are probably too low. I like his running style and he has a win at CD. If he continues to progress, he will be lower than that on Derby Day. It's a shot I realize but kinda fun to have something to follow.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

I took a small shot with Clubhouse Ride(127-1) to win and exacta bets with the major contenders. My major bet is on Stay Thirsty(40-1) to win and exacta bets with the major contenders back and forth

Ouch

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

I took a small shot with Clubhouse Ride(127-1) to win and exacta bets with the major contenders. My major bet is on Stay Thirsty(40-1) to win and exacta bets with the major contenders back and forth

I like Stay Thirsty too. I put a small win bet on him, Astrology. and To Honor and Serve.

[Soaring Softly]

Back in 2003 I laid $20 on Funny Cide in the first pool. He was the second-longest shot in the field at 93/1. I know this is a major redboard, but I swear to god it's the truth. Funny Cide won the Derby at 12/1 odds, and I cashed my future bet for $1800!

I got hooked with that...obviously. Since Funny Cide, I've come up empty with my future wagers. The closest I've gotten since then was a future on Closing Argument in 2005.....finished 2nd at 70/1. I think my future on him was something like 40/1....whatever.

This year, I laid $20 on the other Pletcher/Repole horse, Stay Thirsty at 40/1, and I also laid $10 on Jaycito at 20/1...just because he's Baffert. For the record, I also bought $10 on Indian Winter at 71/1....scratched out of the San Vicente today....yuck!

The fact is that this future pool is fun! You always have to wait until the last 15 minutes or so because it's pari-mutuel, but if you can't get to 'Vegas to get your fixed odds bet down, this is the next best thing.

[Kasept]

FINAL POOL ONE ODDS

1 Anthony's Cross Eoin Harty 30 45
2 Astrology Steven Asmussen 30 48
3 Brethren Todd Pletcher 15 15
4 Clubhouse Ride Craig Lewis 50 99
5 Comma to the Top Peter Miller 20 90
6 Decisive Moment Juan Arias 50 99

7 Dialed In Nicholas Zito 10 8
8 Gourmet Dinner Steven Standridge 30 85
9 Indian Winter Jerry Hollendorfer 50 71
10 J P's Gusto David Hofmans 20 79
11 Jaycito Bob Baffert 20 21
12 Machen Neil Howard 30 49

13 Mucho Macho Man Katherine Ritvo 30 30
14 Rogue Romance Kenneth McPeek 30 34
15 Santiva Eddie Kenneally 30 37
16 Silver Medallion Steven Asmussen 20 66
17 Soldat Kiaran McLaughlin 20 18
18 Stay Thirsty Todd Pletcher 30 40

19 Sweet Ducky Kelly Breen 50 79
20 The Factor Bob Baffert 20 25
21 Tiz Blessed Chad Brown 30 79
22 To Honor and Serve William Mott 10 10
23 Uncle Mo Todd Pletcher 9/2 7-2
24 All Other Three Ye 5/2 2