Pillow V: You Only Live Twice

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Don't backtrack. You insinuated the second half was fixed. You said the outcome was predetermined. There were no "timely pass interference calls" and they didn't need or get any assists from the refs.

They totally outplayed the Pats on both sides of the ball. End of story.

Backtrack?!? Jesus Christ you are sensitive, I never said anything bad about the phuckin Jets, before or now! I JUST SAID THEY OUTPLAYED THEM!!! GTFO! I could give a f*ck who won that game, honestly! My team, and I use that term loosely, is horrible, so from a fan's perspective I don't care about the NFL this year!

Originally Posted by philcski

Backtrack?!? Jesus Christ you are sensitive, I never said anything bad about the phuckin Jets, before or now! I JUST SAID THEY OUTPLAYED THEM!!! GTFO! I could give a f*ck who won that game, honestly! My team, and I use that term loosely, is horrible, so from a fan's perspective I don't care about the NFL this year!

I'm a Titans fan. Be sure to watch the NFL Replay.

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[RockHardTen1985]

Disgusting. If there were Pawn Star re runs I would have been able to miss the last 9 minutes.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

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What's the rule that runs 10 seconds off the clock if the offense commits a foul that stops the clock and why isn't it enforced on the false start with :03 on the clock.

I realize the Saints were not doing that but they could have if they couldn't get lined up in time. Seems like there is another potential hole there....

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by docicu3

What's the rule that runs 10 seconds off the clock if the offense commits a foul that stops the clock and why isn't it enforced on the false start with :03 on the clock.

A timeout was called on the previous play. That's why no 10 second run off.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

A timeout was called on the previous play. That's why no 10 second run off.

So your saying that if they jumped early after the Shockey completion with no TO we were going to overtime? Has it ever happened to take a chip shot field goal win from a team like this?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by docicu3

So your saying that if they jumped early after the Shockey completion with no TO we were going to overtime? Has it ever happened to take a chip shot field goal win from a team like this?

The clock was already stopped when the false start occurred. The rule is if the offensive penalty stops the clock, there's a 10-second runoff.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by philcski

Backtrack?!? Jesus Christ you are sensitive, I never said anything bad about the phuckin Jets, before or now! I JUST SAID THEY OUTPLAYED THEM!!! GTFO! I could give a f*ck who won that game, honestly! My team, and I use that term loosely, is horrible, so from a fan's perspective I don't care about the NFL this year!

This is the kind of response I expected. This has nothing to do with the Jets. It's about what you said. You insinuated the game was fixed. I'm not sure how anyone not wearing a straight jacket could have come to that conclusion.

Is the NFL always on the up and up? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of the arguement and any time that much money is involved there is a greater risk for some funny business. But that game was a legit beatdown. On both sides of the line.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

This is the kind of response I expected. This has nothing to do with the Jets. It's about what you said. You insinuated the game was fixed. I'm not sure how anyone not wearing a straight jacket could have come to that conclusion.

Is the NFL always on the up and up? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of the arguement and any time that much money is involved there is a greater risk for some funny business. But that game was a legit beatdown. On both sides of the line.

Well then you're reading what I initially wrote too literally. The Jets didn't need any help in the second half. They took care of it on their own quite nicely, even with their best player going down. But if they did, you damn well better believe the flags would have been flying in their favor. The post was an extension on a conversation Coach and I and others had last week.

IMO Most NFL games are on the up and up. I try to bet the low profile games like STL-OAK or ARI-ATL this week, or totals. Less TV's = less likelihood of the bookies getting one sided = better chance to have an outcome decided fairly. FYI the Jets-Pats line moved 4 points which is almost unheard of in the NFL. On top of that it was far and away the highest profile game on the day involving a team from the #1 market.

For what it's worth I KNEW the Jets were the right side today and didn't have the balls to bet them.

[ateamstupid]

Coach, next Sunday's early line is Dolphins -1.5, what do you think? Personally I'm surprised the Jimmy Buffetts aren't laying 3-4.

[clyde]

Oh fucl< Cach..



Who do you think the main fixer is?

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Coach, next Sunday's early line is Dolphins -1.5, what do you think? Personally I'm surprised the Jimmy Buffetts aren't laying 3-4.

They realize Brit Far is done? Gotta like the Jets in that one...just let Sanchez play.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by philcski

FYI the Jets-Pats line moved 4 points which is almost unheard of in the NFL. On top of that it was far and away the highest profile game on the day involving a team from the #1 market.

The line moved 2 points. The Pats opened -1 and closed -3.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

The line moved 2 points. The Pats opened -1 and closed -3.

Opened at Jets -1 at several shops in LV.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds...9-10/time/1615

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

ive got to side with phil on this..the refs do have some say in the game and they do know whats going as far as spreads,,look at the b ball ref.

[slotdirt]

If Gene Steratore isn't betting on football games, I'd be shocked. He's single-handedly deciding game outcomes at this point.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

ive got to side with phil on this..the refs do have some say in the game and they do know whats going as far as spreads,,look at the b ball ref.

Again, I'm only talking about yesterday's game and what he said about yesterday's game. Phil said the outcome was predetermined, which I disagree with. I acknowledge the refs absolutely have some say in the game.

But I also don't think it's as much as is being represented here. If I did I'd never bet another sports game.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by philcski

Opened at Jets -1 at several shops in LV.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds...9-10/time/1615

That was last Monday before the Jets had played. By Tuesday, after the Jets played Monday night the Pats were the favorite on every board you posted.