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Old 08-31-2010, 12:30 PM
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Ill be up there making wild and crazy insane bets all day... Ill likely not play because of the 5th the wide open NYB MSW and the last, I see 3 races that are total spreads. Even if I took a stab and singled my horses at 4-1 and 12-1 ML I would have to go like 5 deep in those other races to feel good, and like I said I like the Dutrow a little in the stakes.
Will be way overplayed, only your boy TPletch can win that race
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:34 PM
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I actually agree with him about Fancy Point.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:45 PM
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I actually agree with him about Fancy Point.
IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:55 PM
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IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race
Dominguez gets off Arch Support to ride Pleine Forme. The race is wide open though. I don't know how one can eliminate Dos Lunas and Believe in A. P.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:29 PM
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Dominguez gets off Arch Support to ride Pleine Forme. The race is wide open though. I don't know how one can eliminate Dos Lunas and Believe in A. P.
Dos Lunas ran at Monmouth on Sunday. Since R. Dutrow is not her trainer, I'd have to think she'll be a scratch.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:51 PM
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Pleine Forme looks very good considering the pedigree and relevant trainer angles, but the Pletcher looks sneaky. How often do you see him claim? The answer? Twice in the last 5 years. One of them was second by a neck going long on the turf at 10-1.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:42 PM
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Pleine Forme looks very good considering the pedigree and relevant trainer angles, but the Pletcher looks sneaky. How often do you see him claim? The answer? Twice in the last 5 years. One of them was second by a neck going long on the turf at 10-1.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:55 PM
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Dominguez gets off Arch Support to ride Pleine Forme. The race is wide open though. I don't know how one can eliminate Dos Lunas and Believe in A. P.
He got off Arch Support because it wasn't a good race, which is why Believe in AP is a toss IMO because she is gonna get bet becausce Dicky Dutrow will tell everyone he loves her, like he did the last time she ran.

Dos Lunas ran a couple days ago at Monmouth, highly unlikely she is running again
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:02 PM
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He got off Arch Support because it wasn't a good race, which is why Believe in AP is a toss IMO because she is gonna get bet becausce Dicky Dutrow will tell everyone he loves her, like he did the last time she ran.

Dos Lunas ran a couple days ago at Monmouth, highly unlikely she is running again
It's not exactly easy to win an 8.5 furlong turf race off of only a 5 furlong dirt race in which you did no running. I think Believe in A. P. is much more likely to move forward than Arch Support.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:06 PM
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It's not exactly easy to win an 8.5 furlong turf race off of only a 5 furlong dirt race in which you did no running. I think Believe in A. P. is much more likely to move forward than Arch Support.
I completely agree, but I think that move up will be more like next year, then tomorrow

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Old 08-31-2010, 02:48 PM
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[quote=Scav;690400]He got off Arch Support because it wasn't a good race, which is why Believe in AP is a toss IMO because she is gonna get bet becausce Dicky Dutrow will tell everyone he loves her, like he did the last time she ran.


that was very close to a one suit comment..dont make me unfriend you on facebook..
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:24 PM
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He got off Arch Support because it wasn't a good race, which is why Believe in AP is a toss IMO because she is gonna get bet becausce Dicky Dutrow will tell everyone he loves her, like he did the last time she ran.


that was very close to a one suit comment..dont make me unfriend you on facebook..
It is no where near that type of comment. Last time she ran I pushed on her as I was sitting with one of the larger players at Arlington and he talked to Dutrow, he loved her that day, and hated his horse in the last, who ended up being a late scratch (and if you go back in the archives you will see I said Dutrow hated the horse)

I don't think we are friends on FB, but unfriending is the new in thing I hear. Just happened to me the other day from someone on here actually. Quite hilarious.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:57 PM
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IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race
I like Motion's horse as well and agree that the 6 is going to be tough. I also think Fancy Point has a big shot and would probably use all three.

The sequence as a whole is very challenging because of the number of bad/questionable horses that are going to be used heavily (Sly, Stream of Gold, Run to Grand Ave, Arrr Pirates Booty) that you probably can't trust.

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Old 08-31-2010, 12:59 PM
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IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race
i concur.... don't like that pletcher is putting cohen back up though.

if we're shooting for a maiden in this race, the #9 Believe in A.P. looks pretty live closing into the #8 Arch Support crawl of a pace last out and only losing by 1/2 a length

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Old 08-31-2010, 01:03 PM
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i concur.... don't like that pletcher is putting cohen back up though.
Cohen's a pretty crappy turf jock, but Pletcher doesn't often take winning jocks off his horses.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:02 PM
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No love for Believe in A. P.?

The anchor man off; 3 turf works since the last race; and wins with stronger handling last out.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:04 PM
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No love for Believe in A. P.?

The anchor man off; 3 turf works since the last race; and wins with stronger handling last out.
Who's the anchor man? Leparoux rode him last out.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:06 PM
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It's worth noting too that this race is scheduled for the inner turf, which is very surprising to me. The chances that someone gets obliterated on the first turn are very high.

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Old 08-31-2010, 01:14 PM
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Who's the anchor man? Leparoux rode him last out.
My bad. Lezcano rode him 1st time out. When I saw the horse unable to stay on righty lead in the stretch, I just assumed that Jose was on him -- as this is his trademark (among other shortcomings).
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