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Kasept 08-31-2010 08:35 AM

9/1 (SAR): $443k C/O ~ Contest/Discussion
 
5th (3:13)

1 Mile (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Claiming ($25,000) | Purse: $23,000

1 1 Arrr Pirates Booty Castellano J J Brown Bruce R 119 $25,000 L 3-1
1A 9 Driven by Fear Cohen D Brown Bruce R 123 $25,000 L 3-1
2 2 Ghosts and Legends Gomez G K Dutrow, Jr. R E 119 $25,000 L 12-1
3 3 Naughty You Lezcano J Serpe Philip M 119 $25,000 L 7-2
4 4 Stroke Dominguez R A Rice Linda 119 $25,000 L 6-1
5 5 Peat Bay Velazquez J R Benzel Seth 119 $25,000 L 2-1
6 6 Unique Tune Coa E M Ritvo Timothy 119 $25,000 L 10-1
7 7 Captain Redwood Espinoza J L Schettino Dominick A 119 $25,000 L 20-1
8 8 Moonshine Mountain Richards G G Simeone Paul J 123 $25,000 Blk-On L 30-1
9 10 Speciale Giorno Bridgmohan S X Sciacca Gary 123 $25,000 L 15-1

A-Coupled: Arrr Pirates Booty and Driven by Fear

Exacta, Trifecta, Pick 3 Races (5-7), Pick 6 Races (5-10), Daily Double Wagers



6th (3:47)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($12,500) | Purse: $21,000

1 1 Talk to Nick Maragh R Rodriguez Rudy R 117 $12,500 L 4-1
2 2 Devilish Due Coa E M Brown Bruce R 117 $12,500 L 7-2
3 3 Run to Grand Ave. Cohen D Levine Bruce N 117 $12,500 L 3-1
4 4 Mel's Gold Lenclud F Hertler John O 121 $12,500 L 15-1
5 5 Fairway Tom Prado E S Rodriguez Rudy R 117 $12,500 L 5-1
6 6 Dance Floor Maniac Dominguez R A Contessa Gary C 119 $12,500 L 4-1
7 7 End of the Gulch Rohena J M Ronen Assaf 117 $12,500 Blk-On L 10-1

Exacta, Trifecta, Super (.10), Pick 3 Races (6-8), Grand Slam Races (6-9) Daily Double Wagers



7th (4:21)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 2 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $41,000

1 1 Obviously Tuesday Dominguez R A Rice Linda 119 FTL 3-1
2 2 Cryin' Ryan Maragh R Duggan David P 119 FTL 10-1
3 3 Knock Quietly Desormeaux K J Schwartz Scott M 119 FTL 10-1
4 4 Trinity Warrior Espinoza J L Ubillo Rodrigo A 119 FTL 15-1
5 5 Power Dreams Cohen D Badgett William Jr 119 L 6-1
6 6 Precious Metal Castellano J J Brown Chad C 119 FTL 7-2
7 7 Rocky Fortune Lenclud F Pugh Peter D 119 L 15-1
8 8 Igoturback Coa E M Galluscio Dominic G 119 L 10-1
9 9 Newman Rocks Prado E S Hough Stanley M 119 FTL 10-1
10 10 Really Belong Lezcano J Matz Michael R 119 FTL 6-1
11 AE Bigger Is Bettor Velazquez J R Ubillo Rodrigo A 119 FTL 8-1
12 AE Cousin Frankie Velasquez C Phipps William 119 L 12-1
13 AE Rudy Rudy Rudy Velasquez C Rodriguez Rudy R 119 FTL 10-1
14 MTO Mr Ames Velazquez J R Schosberg Richard 119 L 6-1
15 MTO Crea's Law Lezcano J Pletcher Todd A 119 L 5-2
16 MTO Local Legacy Lezcano J Rice Linda 119 L 4-1

Exacta, Trifecta, Super (.10), Pick 3 Races (7-9), Pick 4 Races (7-10) Daily Double Wagers



8th (4:55) P. G. Johnson S.

1 1/16 Miles (Inner turf) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $70,000

1 3 Avanta Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 118 Blk-On L 8-1
1A MTO Sky Hosoya Pletcher Todd A 118 L 8-1
2 1 Pleine Forme Dominguez R A Motion H Graham 118 L 5-1
3 2 Dos Lunas Maragh R Glenney John 118 L 3-1
4 4 Fancy Point Castellano J J Phipps William 116 L 12-1
5 5 Maria's Luck Prado E S Cesare William 118 L 20-1
6 6 Lauren Byrd Cohen D Pletcher Todd A 118 L 7-2
7 7 Kathmanblu Desormeaux K J McPeek Kenneth G 118 FTL 10-1
8 8 Arch Support Velasquez C Contessa Gary C 118 L 6-1
9 9 Believe in A. P. Leparoux J R Dutrow, Jr. R E 116 L 8-1
10 MTO Let's Get Fiscal Garcia Alan Violette, Jr. R A 118 L 5-2

A-Coupled: Avanta and Sky Hosoya

Exacta, Trifecta, Super (.10), Pick 3 Races (8-10), Daily Double Wagers



9th (5:30)

5 1/2 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($25,000) | Purse: $36,000

1 1 Kingsdale Ocean (IRE) Castellano J J Toscano John T Jr 120 $25,000 L 15-1
2 2 Matt's a Giant Maragh R Farro Patricia 121 $25,000 L 6-1
3 3 Sly Dominguez R A Dutrow Anthony W 120 $25,000 L 4-1
4 4 Crowned General Mena M Romans Dale 121 $25,000 L 6-1
5 5 Regal Prince Luzzi M J Violette, Jr. R A 120 $25,000 L 20-1
6 6 Sumfun Cohen D DiPrima Gregory 120 $25,000 L 6-1
7 7 Straight Romance Gomez G K Ferraro James W 120 $25,000 L 15-1
8 8 Falcon Trace Velazquez J R Pascucci Ambrose 121 $25,000 L 12-1
9 9 Rocketing Returns Velasquez C Rodriguez Rudy R 120 $25,000 L 5-1
10 10 Winthrop House Garcia Alan Rice Linda 120 $25,000 L 7-2

Exacta, Trifecta, Super (.10), Daily Double Wagers



10th (6:04)

1 1/16 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($20,000) | Purse: $36,000

1 1 Stream of Gold (IRE) Leparoux J R Maker Michael J 123 $20,000 L 3-1
2 2 Sharps Island Hill C Voss Thomas H 123 $20,000 L 8-1
3 3 Cinder Cone Coa E M Englehart Chris 123 $20,000 L 6-1
4 4 Eldoktori Prado E S Reid Robert E Jr 123 $20,000 L 5-1
5 5 Beneath the Crown Maragh R Hills Timothy A 123 $20,000 L 8-1
6 6 Slamm'n Lou Lenclud F Badgett William Jr 123 $20,000 L 20-1
7 7 French Transition Bridgmohan J V Martin Frank 123 $20,000 L 12-1
8 8 Hurricane Heat Bridgmohan S X Sciacca Gary 123 $20,000 L 20-1
9 9 The Roundhouse Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 123 $20,000 L 4-1
10 10 Slick Wheelie Castellano J J Brown Bruce R 123 $20,000 L 10-1
11 MTO Tommasi Cohen D Jacobson David 123 $20,000 L 5-1

Exacta, Trifecta, Super (.10) Wagers

knickslions2 08-31-2010 08:58 AM

Looks like a piece of cake :eek:

Can I use $4000 for this one

RockHardTen1985 08-31-2010 09:40 AM

I have a few opinions on this sequence....
I will be at the Spa in person for only the second time this meet.

I love the 1 in race 6. If I dont play this pick 6 I'll be betting him to win.

The 8th I love love love the 4. I also think the 9 is decent, but the 4 is big win bet and a really strong play for me.

MaTH716 08-31-2010 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 690285)
I have a few opinions on this sequence....
I will be at the Spa in person for only the second time this meet.

I love the 1 in race 6. If I dont play this pick 6 I'll be betting him to win.

The 8th I love love love the 4. I also think the 9 is decent, but the 4 is big win bet and a really strong play for me.

Why wouldn't you play it then? If you have two very strong opinions (possible singles), it basically brings you down to a pick 4 ticket. I saw you take a wild stab at the pick 6 the other day on what seemed like a whim and now you love 2 horses in the sequance and might not play it? Not to mention the double carryover, it just seems it would be a given that you played it (unless there was a scratch of one of your singles).

RockHardTen1985 08-31-2010 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 690297)
Why wouldn't you play it then? If you have two very strong opinions (possible singles), it basically brings you down to a pick 4 ticket. I saw you take a wild stab at the pick 6 the other day on what seemed like a whim and now you love 2 horses in the sequance and might not play it? Not to mention the double carryover, it just seems it would be a given that you played it (unless there was a scratch of one of your singles).

Ill be up there making wild and crazy insane bets all day... Ill likely not play because of the 5th the wide open NYB MSW and the last, I see 3 races that are total spreads. Even if I took a stab and singled my horses at 4-1 and 12-1 ML I would have to go like 5 deep in those other races to feel good, and like I said I like the Dutrow a little in the stakes.

atolunch 08-31-2010 12:26 PM

Didn't Lloyd run against Arrr Pirates Booty his first time out?

Scav 08-31-2010 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 690300)
Ill be up there making wild and crazy insane bets all day... Ill likely not play because of the 5th the wide open NYB MSW and the last, I see 3 races that are total spreads. Even if I took a stab and singled my horses at 4-1 and 12-1 ML I would have to go like 5 deep in those other races to feel good, and like I said I like the Dutrow a little in the stakes.

Will be way overplayed, only your boy TPletch can win that race

ateamstupid 08-31-2010 12:34 PM

I actually agree with him about Fancy Point.

Scav 08-31-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 690335)
I actually agree with him about Fancy Point.

IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race

ateamstupid 08-31-2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 690341)
IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race

Dominguez gets off Arch Support to ride Pleine Forme. The race is wide open though. I don't know how one can eliminate Dos Lunas and Believe in A. P.

NTamm1215 08-31-2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 690341)
IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race

I like Motion's horse as well and agree that the 6 is going to be tough. I also think Fancy Point has a big shot and would probably use all three.

The sequence as a whole is very challenging because of the number of bad/questionable horses that are going to be used heavily (Sly, Stream of Gold, Run to Grand Ave, Arrr Pirates Booty) that you probably can't trust.

NT

-BT- 08-31-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 690341)
IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race

i concur.... don't like that pletcher is putting cohen back up though.

if we're shooting for a maiden in this race, the #9 Believe in A.P. looks pretty live closing into the #8 Arch Support crawl of a pace last out and only losing by 1/2 a length

-bt-

the_fat_man 08-31-2010 01:02 PM

No love for Believe in A. P.?

The anchor man off; 3 turf works since the last race; and wins with stronger handling last out.

ateamstupid 08-31-2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 690353)
i concur.... don't like that pletcher is putting cohen back up though.

Cohen's a pretty crappy turf jock, but Pletcher doesn't often take winning jocks off his horses.

ateamstupid 08-31-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 690356)
No love for Believe in A. P.?

The anchor man off; 3 turf works since the last race; and wins with stronger handling last out.

Who's the anchor man? Leparoux rode him last out.

NTamm1215 08-31-2010 01:06 PM

It's worth noting too that this race is scheduled for the inner turf, which is very surprising to me. The chances that someone gets obliterated on the first turn are very high.

NT

the_fat_man 08-31-2010 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 690359)
Who's the anchor man? Leparoux rode him last out.

My bad. Lezcano rode him 1st time out. When I saw the horse unable to stay on righty lead in the stretch, I just assumed that Jose was on him -- as this is his trademark (among other shortcomings).

-BT- 08-31-2010 01:18 PM

i know the 7th isn't that easy of a race, but i can only come up with the obvious choices (1 and 6). Matz firing at 4% clip with firsters isn't that inviting. Rudy Rudy Rudy would be interesting if he draws in, and #5 Power Dreams first on the grass caught my eye as well

-bt-

parsixfarms 08-31-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 690350)
Dominguez gets off Arch Support to ride Pleine Forme. The race is wide open though. I don't know how one can eliminate Dos Lunas and Believe in A. P.

Dos Lunas ran at Monmouth on Sunday. Since R. Dutrow is not her trainer, I'd have to think she'll be a scratch.

hockey2315 08-31-2010 01:51 PM

Pleine Forme looks very good considering the pedigree and relevant trainer angles, but the Pletcher looks sneaky. How often do you see him claim? The answer? Twice in the last 5 years. One of them was second by a neck going long on the turf at 10-1.


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