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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't know what to tell you. If you want to believe the guy was a really good trainer, that is fine. As I said before, I don't know a single trainer that thinks he is a good trainer. Even back in the 1980s and 1990s, everyone would cringe watching his horses train in the morning. His horses would hobble by. You've never seen a guy whose horses were so sore. That is one of the reasons why everyone thinks he is so bad. He had so many sore horses and he refused to give them a break. A ton of them used to break down.

With regard to steroids, everyone was using them the last 15 years or so until they recently banned them. But the guys who started using them before anyone else, back in the early 1980s, had a huge edge. If you don't believe that, I don't know what to tell you.

By the way, Lukas didn't lose Gene Klein because he passed away. they had a huge falling out before before Klein passed away.

In the 80's and 90's Lukas had the creme of the crop stock as far as pedigree and money spent on horses. Its not like he made a 10k claimer into a derby winner. If that was the case I would support your accusation of Lukas using steroids.

Since you like to support Pletcher a lot, then maybe you dont realize he was Lukas assistant for years before being a big time trainer he is now. Is all of Pletchers knowledge in training from Lukas or a textbook?