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Old 06-10-2009, 05:35 PM
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Other people (during the past two years that this has been discussed) have said Wright has definitely changed and worsened over the years. Obama at that time (campaign trail) said he'd not heard Wright preach like that when he was there. Others have supported that Wright has changed, others have denied it. People (blogs) have lied and posted that Obama was in Wright's church hearing sermons at times when Obama was publically elsewhere on the campaign trail.

That Rev Wright gets any press at all, and the "his father was a Muslim!" keeps getting brought up in public is beyond absurd at this point, IMO.

And I lived through the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago, Nixon and Watergate, Walter Mondale - erase that, I was thinking of Spiro Agnew - sorry Walter! - let alone Bill and Monica and cigars - so I think I have plenty of political cynicism to flavor my viewpoints
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Bill and Monica was a big deal because Bill lied under oath. That is bad.. even if you are cheating on your wife and banging an intern with a cigar, you should NEVER lie under oath, let alone when you are the POTUS.


That and POTUS, is supposed to be a role model for kids, and should show some morality for that point alone.. that whole thing wasnt exactly a great part in American history.


Also, any boss or CEO who gets caught doing interesting things with a cigar to their employee or secretary... in his office of all places... is going to get the boot. Why shouldnt the POTUS be held to the same standards?


But with all that said, it was pretty bad ass for our Pres to get some head in the Oval Office of the United States by some nasty, skanky intern.... and I dont blame him with that UgLy wife of his either..
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And I lived through the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago, Nixon and Watergate, Walter Mondale - erase that, I was thinking of Spiro Agnew - sorry Walter! - let alone Bill and Monica and cigars - so I think I have plenty of political cynicism to flavor my viewpoints
Spoken by a true Republican. You never were never will be....But you do give me a chuckle kind of like a clown does..a democratic wolf in sheep's clothing if you will.

PS I'm not afraid of clowns and grew up in the Gacy years w/blond hair as a teenager living within 20 miles of his crawlspace. Also admit Obama had nothing to do with Ayers, Rezko and the rest of the bunch. LOL

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According to the Associated Press, the former pastor of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ said his one-time parishioner and mentee, Barack Obama, has made some mistakes, but he's "like my child," and he'll always love the president.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/blogent...puz5STgLeVwBLu
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:18 PM
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Really, the personal attacks aren't necessary. Shall I take back decades of voting GOP? Including my two votes for Bush 44?

>> According to the Associated Press, the former pastor of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ said his one-time parishioner and mentee, Barack Obama, has made some mistakes, but he's "like my child," and he'll always love the president.

So what?

If a crazed whackjob idolizes Newt Gingrich, and Gingrich went to church with him, sat next to him for years, and the crazy spews religiously-oriented white supremicist crap in public and is arrested "doing Newt's work" (threatening folks with a gun) - in your world that associates Gingrich with the crazy?
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[quote=Riot]Really, the personal attacks aren't necessary. Shall I take back decades of voting GOP? Including my two votes for Bush 44?

>> According to the Associated Press, the former pastor of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ said his one-time parishioner and mentee, Barack Obama, has made some mistakes, but he's "like my child," and he'll always love the president.

So what?

If a crazed whackjob idolizes Newt Gingrich, and Gingrich went to church with him, sat next to him for years, and the crazy spews religiously-oriented white supremicist crap in public and is arrested "doing Newt's work" (threatening folks with a gun) - in your world that associates Gingrich with the crazy?[/QUOTE]

Yes!! If Newt's Mininister is out spewing white supremicist crap he is associated with Newt.

There seems to be a pattern developing w/high profile black ministers being anti semitic as Revs Sharpton and Jackson have also been guilty but for some reason given a pass by the media after a few blurbs. Some white minister has an affair (forbid it be a homosexual) and his career is over. He steps down from his position as head of the church for the good of the church. Jesse Sr.? He becomes a baby-daddy in his 60's and all is good. Only reason he has been quiet as of late is for his son's who must both go to sleep at night not knowing whether the Feds will come knocking Blago style in the morning.
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There seems to be a pattern developing w/high profile black ministers being anti semitic as Revs Sharpton and Jackson have also been guilty but for some reason given a pass by the media after a few blurbs. Some white minister has an affair (forbid it be a homosexual) and his career is over. He steps down from his position as head of the church for the good of the church. Jesse Sr.? He becomes a baby-daddy in his 60's and all is good. Only reason he has been quiet as of late is for his son's who must both go to sleep at night not knowing whether the Feds will come knocking Blago style in the morning.

More like if some white Pastor has a homosexual affair, or molests young boys, they just get moved from their Catholic church to other Churches where they can continue to abuse. And everyone above this person (who are closer to God) just cover up... for the good of the church.
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More like if some white Pastor has a homosexual affair, or molests young boys, they just get moved from their Catholic church to other Churches where they can continue to abuse. And everyone above this person (who are closer to God) just cover up... for the good of the church.
thankfully I guess I was too ugly during my days of Catholic school. Priests preferred to hit me rather than kiss me....
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thankfully I guess I was too ugly during my days of Catholic school. Priests preferred to hit me rather than kiss me....
just thought you'd like to know....that was funny right there! never thought i would find something to agree with you here, but you being an ugly youngster fits the bill pretty good, but why limit yourself to your youth??

this was meant to be funny....please don't come after me!
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More like if some white Pastor has a homosexual affair, or molests young boys, they just get moved from their Catholic church to other Churches where they can continue to abuse. And everyone above this person (who are closer to God) just cover up... for the good of the church.

i guess you saw the report that came out about the roman catholic church in ireland? that was absolutely horrendous, with abuses going on for decades. the church still absolutely refuses to name even one perpetrator. if anything indicates how the roman catholic church feels and operates, it would be that.
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i guess you saw the report that came out about the roman catholic church in ireland? that was absolutely horrendous, with abuses going on for decades. the church still absolutely refuses to name even one perpetrator. if anything indicates how the roman catholic church feels and operates, it would be that.


yeah its absolutely sick.
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