This just in .............

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Gauchos0522

I wish I could train horses to suckup to nine BC wins...

You obvious haven't been watching Shug's horses on the turf these days. And, thus, offered the general/generic retort, which is basically VALUELESS to me. You must be a supporter of his and quickly came to his defense when you thought I slighted him. Sadly, however, he's only a bit player in this thread, so you can HEEL. Good boy, coming to the defense of your master.

[Gauchos0522]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

You obvious haven't been watching Shug's horses on the turf these days. And, thus, offered the general/generic retort, which is basically VALUELESS to me. You must be a supporter of his and quickly came to his defense when you thought I slighted him. Sadly, however, he's only a bit player in this thread, so you can HEEL. Good boy, coming to the defense of your master.

I am really not a fan of his in particular just found it very peculiar to point out such a successful trainer over the years as a suckup trainer. And I love betting against shug nowadays because he is constantly overbet especially in the races your talking about. I just dont view him as a suckup trainer as you do.

[the_fat_man]

Actually, I'm not knocking Shug. He actually gets it when it comes to the turf; and he's had any number of winners just by training his horses to be comfortable inside and behind horses and thus getting very good trips. The beneficial aspect of this is that most are over bet next time out and, predictably, fall on their asses.

[Gauchos0522]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Actually, I'm not knocking Shug. He actually gets it when it comes to the turf; and he's had any number of winners just by training his horses to be comfortable inside and behind horses and thus getting very good trips. The beneficial aspect of this is that most are over bet next time out and, predictably, fall on their asses.

Then I just misinterpreted your original comment...and as much as I would like to bet against kip deville, who as you stated constantly gets great trips, i dont think i will be playing the race with the field in their against him.