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Old 06-15-2008, 12:29 AM
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First Defence = off the board in the Jaipur.
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Old 06-15-2008, 01:00 AM
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Pace is a definite problem, but I still think E To D takes it. If he gets him stuck, please throw eggs.
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Old 06-15-2008, 07:54 AM
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Fatboy likes First Defence about as much as he likes Ariel Smith entering the turn...

Pretty safe to say he is betting AGAINST.

'real horse'
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Old 06-15-2008, 01:13 PM
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I love 3-5 shots. YAY!!!!
Byk should lock this thread up. A friggin thread about a 3-5 shot. Takes real stones to tout a 3-5 shot......fat man must be on a strict diet of chalk bars.
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Old 06-15-2008, 01:19 PM
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Byk should lock this thread up. A friggin thread about a 3-5 shot. Takes real stones to tout a 3-5 shot......fat man must be on a strict diet of chalk bars.
That's right, DOUCH. This thread is about me picking a 3:5 shot. Takes a real sharpie like you to figure that out. Cause, all I do here is give out 3:5 shots.
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:00 AM
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First Defence = off the board in the Jaipur.

Good luck with that.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:25 AM
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Good luck with that.
perhaps, but I see enough question marks to go against for the win.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:43 AM
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no pushover for first defence

the 9 has speed and coa
the 1 had speed and the inside
the 8 may the schwartz be with you!!
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:53 PM
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no pushover for first defence

the 9 has speed and coa
the 1 had speed and the inside
the 8 may the schwartz be with you!!

I'm sorry, then please explain this post.


I didn't " beat up on the Fat Man. " I was just joking with him. It's pretty clear I have a huge amount of respect for his opinion. Just as it's also clear that I thought betting against First Defence was probably a mistake. Win or lose, he's a dramatically better horse than today's competition and he has superior turf breeding ( probably better than dirt ). He wasn't great value at even money but to me you either keyed him or passed the race.
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Old 06-15-2008, 07:45 PM
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I'm sorry, then please explain this post.


I didn't " beat up on the Fat Man. " I was just joking with him. It's pretty clear I have a huge amount of respect for his opinion. Just as it's also clear that I thought betting against First Defence was probably a mistake. Win or lose, he's a dramatically better horse than today's competition and he has superior turf breeding ( probably better than dirt ). He wasn't great value at even money but to me you either keyed him or passed the race.
they were other options.. and he allmost got beat by 1
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:07 PM
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they were other options.. and he allmost got beat by 1
I understand. But, he was the dominent speed, that's all. I know it was obvious.

He was decidedly unimpressive today and even though he won it probably was right to bet against him in retrospect.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:55 AM
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I think the 9 True To Tradition has a good shot. 1'st D has a dirt class edge, if that transfers to turf he'll be tough. Can't take the low odds though. I see him getting gobbled up in the stretch and hear the splashing of the bridge jumpers! I'll play a 4-9 exacta box. and a 4,9-1,3,5,6-4,9 tri.
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