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Old 05-02-2007, 02:19 PM
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Here is some more data on the inside post, I'm not sure when the track was reconfigured to squeeze the inside, maybe someone here knows the exact year but to answer a question...the starting gate was installed at CD in 1930, since then 8 horses have won the Derby from pp#1...they are:
War Admiral (1937)
Lawrin (1938)
Gallahadion (1940)
Citation (1948)
Hill Gale (1952)
Needles (1956)
Chateaugay (1963)
Ferdinand (1986)
I'm pretty sure that I read that the change was made after Chateaugay as it was news when Ferdinand won...pretty sure they said he was the first...and last.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:22 PM
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Here is some more data on the inside post, I'm not sure when the track was reconfigured to squeeze the inside, maybe someone here knows the exact year but to answer a question...the starting gate was installed at CD in 1930, since then 8 horses have won the Derby from pp#1...they are:
War Admiral (1937)
Lawrin (1938)
Gallahadion (1940)
Citation (1948)
Hill Gale (1952)
Needles (1956)
Chateaugay (1963)
Ferdinand (1986)
I'm pretty sure that I read that the change was made after Chateaugay as it was news when Ferdinand won...pretty sure they said he was the first...and last.
I think you're correct, in this era the 1 post is considered a death sentence.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:05 PM
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One thing about the post position is a horse like Closing Argument ran well from the 19 hole I think, either way, it was way the hell out there, and it gutted him for good but it is possible for them to run well from the outside
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:05 PM
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One thing about the post position is a horse like Closing Argument ran well from the 19 hole I think, either way, it was way the hell out there, and it gutted him for good but it is possible for them to run well from the outside
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:07 PM
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whatever it was, it was no man's land. All the horses I am considering got good draws so essentially, I will be broke after the Derby
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:10 PM
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He ran the best race, I wouldn't say he was the best horse. He was pressing the pace, and even led at the 8th pole for a brief moment.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:14 PM
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He ran the best race, I wouldn't say he was the best horse. He was pressing the pace, and even led at the 8th pole for a brief moment.
Sorta what I meant... best horse on that day, at least.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:06 PM
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One thing about the post position is a horse like Closing Argument ran well from the 19 hole I think, either way, it was way the hell out there, and it gutted him for good but it is possible for them to run well from the outside
He was actually the best horse in the race that day... shame he didn't get the win to prove it.
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