Post Position Draw List
 

The order in which agents of the 20 Kentucky Derby horses will select their post position this evening at Fourth Street Live! (5-6 p.m. EDT on ESPN2):

Storm in May
Teuflesberg
Hard Spun
Liquidity
Bwana Bull
Street Sense
Cowtown Cat
Scat Daddy
Imawildandcrazyguy
Zanjero
Tiago
Circular Quay
Sam P.
Nobiz Like Shobiz
Stormello
Curlin
Sedgefield
Any Given Saturday
Great Hunter
Dominican

bad luck so far for Great Hunter and Any Given Saturday. Street Sense got lucky and so did hard Spun.

Well 3 of my top horses are going last. . . this sucks. . .

Well Curlin draws 16. So he is going to get 1-2-3 or 19-20. Not good for him at all.

I'm glad Curlin got a bad draw from a betting standpoint. . . I won't be as worried about tossing him now. . .

I can hardly wait!!! :D

Yeah Dominican and Curlin are up agianst it for sure. Glad that Street Sense is gonna get a good spot.

I would think the 3 hole wouldn't be that bad for him

Do you think that Asmussen will sacrifice Zanjero's best spot to benefit Curlin?

was just going to say the same thing, maybe not ideal but certainly not a big issue. If he loses post position won't be the reason.

I saw a slightly different list posted. Had Curlin picking 18th instead of 16th. Looks like the 19 hole for him with Great Hunter and Dominican vying for 1 and 20

Horse Trainer Jockey
1
Storm in May
Kaplan Leyva
2 Teuflesberg Sanders Elliott
3
Hard Spun
Jones Pino
4
Liquidity
O'Neill Flores
5
Bwana Bull
Hollendorfer Castellano
6
Street Sense
Nafzger Borel
7
Cowtown Cat
Pletcher Jara
8
Scat Daddy
Pletcher Prado
9 Imawildandcrazyguy Kaplan Guidry
10
Zanjero
Asmussen Bridgmohan
11
Tiago
Shirreffs Smith
12
Circular Quay
Pletcher Velazquez
13
Sam P.
Pletcher Dominguez
14
Nobiz Like Shobiz
Tagg Velasquez
15
Stormello
Currin Desormeaux
16
Sedgefield
Miller Leparoux
17
Any Given Saturday
Pletcher Gomez
18
Curlin
Asmussen Albarado
19
Great Hunter
O'Neill Nakatani
20
Dominican
Miller Bejarano

No, but I'm gambling that Pletcher is going to use two of his horses to do two things...

1) Set a fast pace

2) Shadow Street Sense and not let him have an easy trip or a rails run

The horse (Curlin) is so frail (in my opinon) that he would get crushed if he is down on the inside. No way can that horse survive all that physicial abuse he will get. I think the outside is the only option for him.

With only a couple exceptions, if I take my derby ranking list and invert it, it comes pretty close to the post position draw list.

My picks are screwed.:mad:

I think you are really exagerrating things. What post position is safe from bumping in the derby?

Same here, Jim. . . I feel like all my preparation just got thrown out the window. . .

Well none, but the inside is much worse than the outside (in my opinion). I would be shocked if they took and inside post (unless that is their only option).

Hard Spun has been my pick - this draw confirms it. I would think that He and SS will be the top two favorites in the morning. You've got to think that either way, by drawing 18th, Curlin is screwed. If he can get it done, my hats off to him and his connections. I don't believe I'll be using him in anything but 3rd / 4th in a few of my super tickets

With Tufflesburg getting a early draw along with Hard Spun, I feel they they can affect others as far as wanting inside or outside of them. Probaby the 2 horses alomg with Stormello that will dictate the pace, I still think Curlin has the tactical speed and the ability to turn it on and off , to get where he wants before the first turn. Three wide at the most. Gate will not be SS problem IMO. Borell will wait in the gate if necessary to get inside for the early going, If he can pass groups of horses he will be okey but if they are strung out too mutch and will need to pass to many individually it could be too much for him to overcome.

You obviously haven't seen Curlin in person...far from "frail."