Deepest Derby field in recent memory

[LITF]

Not really sure how deep it is. Think there is a big divide between the top 4 (Dortmund, American Pharoah, Carpe Diem and Firing Line) and everyone else. Mubtaahij being the wild card.

I know it's still a month out but I'm curious on what everyones take is on the potential pace. I keep hearing it's going to be this blistering pace but as I look at the potential lineup I don't see any runaway speed ala Songandaprayer, Spanish Chestnut or a blinkered Palace Malace. I think the pace for this group might be reasonable. Just curious what others think.

Going to be a long four weeks...

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by LITF

Not really sure how deep it is. Think there is a big divide between the top 4 (Dortmund, American Pharoah, Carpe Diem and Firing Line) and everyone else. Mubtaahij being the wild card.

I love how the two horses who ran the fastest prep race of the season are lumped in with the "everyone else" that there's somehow a big gap back to. But yeah, Upstart, Materality and Frosted are total tosses.

[LITF]

Maybe not Upstart...

[Kitan]

3yo MSW 6.5f 1:20.17
F&M MSW 7f 1:27.32
G3 (Commissioner) 9.5f 1:58.60
$100k Stakes (Pants on Fire) 7f 1:24.61
3yo MSW 8f 1:40.27
3yoF G2 8.5f 1:47.40

Yeah, it was just the Florida Derby where they staggered home...

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I love how the two horses who ran the fastest prep race of the season are lumped in with the "everyone else" that there's somehow a big gap back to. But yeah, Upstart, Materality and Frosted are total tosses.

I can't remember the last Derby when this many of the top contenders had held their form. I'd also add Mubtaahij to the big gang at the top, but that may be wishful thinking. (Along with Materiality, Mubtaahij is my best chance to collect on the 'All Others' bets I've made in the Future Wager pools, bets that are looking a little weak right now.)

--Dunbar

[Kasept]

5/2/15 (CD): Kentucky Derby (10f)

1. International Star (Maker/Mena)
2. Dortmund (Baffert/M. Garcia)
3. Carpe Diem (Pletcher/Velazquez)
4. Frosted (McLaighlin/Rosario)
5. Mubtaahij (de Kock/Soumillon)
6. Materiality (Pletcher/Castellano-?)
7. El Kabeir (Terranova/Lopez)
8. Upstart (Violette/J. Ortiz)
9. American Pharoah (Baffert/V. Espinoza) -- Arkansas Derby
10. Itsaknockout (Pletcher/Saez)
11. Firing Line (S. Callaghan/Stevens)
12. Danzig Moon (Casse/Leparoux)
13. War Story (Amoss/Talamo)
14. Tencendur (Weaver/)
--. Maftool (bin Suroor/Hanagan) **
15. One Lucky Dane (Baffert/Bejarano)
16. Ami's Flatter (J. Carroll/TBD)
17. Stanford (Pletcher/Geroux)
18. Ocho Ocho Ocho (Cassidy/S. Gonzalez)
-- Bolo (Gaines/Smith) **
19. Prospect Park (Sise/Desormeaux)
20. Conquest Typhoon (Casse/Bridgmohan)
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21. Far Right (Moquett) -- Arkansas Derby
22. Keen Ice (Romans)
23. Daredevil (Pletcher)
24. Madefromlucky (Pletcher) -- Arkansas Derby
25. Tiz Shea D (Mott)