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Old 04-29-2012, 09:26 PM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
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When why are you - and more specifically the Washington Post writer - ridiculously attacking the CBO which gave out the original numbers Obama used when the law was passed?

There have been two years of outstanding CBO estimates on the benefits of this law for the country, the massive decrease in health care costs, and that has not changed with the current estimate.

The CBO rehashes the budget and it's influence every single year. Things change according to current reality (other laws passed, the economy, our income as a country via taxes, etc).

Saying the original CBO numbers were false - let alone the allegation that Obama lied - is beyond ridiculous and a deliberate misrepresentation (again, going to the newspaper commentary).

Of course the cost has gone up - there are more poor people due to the economy, and the coverage of the poor has been expanded so they get health care. Guess what? The income will go up, too, and the cost of healthcare for everyone will go down. Can't ignore all facets of the law's effects simply for political expediency.

And PS, yes, Obamacare certainly costs less than doing no health care reform, leaving our health care to the whims of private companies we individually hire, companies looking to profit by not paying for our health care. It has already reduced health care costs.

I am sick of the lies about Obamacare. It's the law. It was passed by a majority of our elected representatives in Congress. And it's a long-term Republican-created and supported, "self-responsibility insure yourself" "support the private insurance companies" law, at that.

And it's a law that has been put into effect, and has been outstandingly effective, in Mass. - it's been a law already proven to work to decrease health care costs.

It's been the law for nearly two years now. It's working. It's not going anywhere. Millions are insured now, or have their health care costs decline now, or are covered for more health care now, than they were before the law. It's a good law.

What it needs, is expansion to a single payer health care system. That will start in 2014, with allowing non-profits to compete (yes, capitalistically compete in the free market) on the insurance exchanges.
The article doesn't say who came out with the original numbers. The bottom line is that the original numbers were way off. The cost is almost double what they originally said. The whole thing is probably going to get overturned any way.

I'm on the fence about whether the government should be able to mandate people having insurance. In California it is mandatory for drivers to have car insurance. If that is not unconstitutional, then I don't really see where mandatory health insurance is unconstitutional.
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