Ouiji On The Dirt?

randallscott35 · #1 11-02-2006, 06:05 PM

Can't understand why they never tried her on the dirt. Sure its not like a sire in terms of breeding, but she is an awesome animal. She could've gone in the distaff one of these years and run well. Wish I had seen it.

1st_Saturday_in_May · #2 11-02-2006, 06:12 PM

I'm just very thankful that they've kept her around for so long. This is one classy mare and I look for nothing less than a win on Saturday!

Revolution · #3 11-02-2006, 06:20 PM

Why run arguably the best grass horse/filly in the world on the dirt? She isn't going to be a stallion.

Grass is a lot easier on a horse/filly than the dirt. That is probably why she will be racing for the 3rd time in 5 weeks.

randallscott35 · #4 11-02-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Revolution

Why run arguably the best grass horse/filly in the world on the dirt? She isn't going to be a stallion.

Grass is a lot easier on a horse/filly than the dirt. That is probably why she will be racing for the 3rd time in 5 weeks.

I understand that as I said in my post. My thought is, for her last race, why not run her on the dirt? Just to see where she stood on that surface too. Again, this an ownership which has danced every dance and shipped 11 times. They like to take chances. To me its just another chance. Moot point here, just more of a thought.

Revolution · #5 11-02-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

I understand that as I said in my post. My thought is, for her last race, why not run her on the dirt? Just to see where she stood on that surface too. Again, this an ownership which has danced every dance and shipped 11 times. They like to take chances. To me its just another chance. Moot point here, just more of a thought.

If she was a stallion you could take the chance and make the money back in the breeding shed, but you can't throw away what many see as easy million plus if she wins.

She is all turf breeding anyway.

my miss storm cat · #6 11-02-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

I understand that as I said in my post. My thought is, for her last race, why not run her on the dirt? Just to see where she stood on that surface too. Again, this an ownership which has danced every dance and shipped 11 times. They like to take chances. To me its just another chance. Moot point here, just more of a thought.

For the record, this isn't her final start.

She'll end her career in Hong Kong in December.....

Revolution · #7 11-02-2006, 06:53 PM

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Surprise, surprise. Actually she hasn't run since Sept. 9th, so where are you getting your "facts" from?

I should have said that is why she was able to run 3 times in 5 weeks, not will be racing for the 3rd time in 5 weeks. The point is unlike american dirt horses she runs frequently and grass horses can run more frequently.

This summer she finished second to Shirocco, beat Electrocutionist, and then was beaten by David Junior in 3 races over 5 weeks. She even came back 4 weeks later to beat Alexander Goldrun.

Revolution · #8 11-02-2006, 06:58 PM

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Yeah I know who she has run against, and when.

I don't think me or randallscott are talking to you. I know I'm not. Please start correcting my grammer and spelling too. You seem to have little else going on in your life.

Revolution · #9 11-02-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Actually Nostra, Randall started a thread, in which you responded incorrectly, as usual. Big difference between what you said first, and then when corrected. But, hey, just the facts right?

As always, thanks for correcting me. It means a lot to have someone so brilliant correcting me.

Revolution · #10 11-02-2006, 07:10 PM

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No problem. Wouldn't have to correct you if you actually knew about some of the stuff that you talk about.

You are right. Saying a horse ran 3x vs will be running for a third time, doesn't make the same point that she runs frequently.

Maybe instead of spending your lunch break at OTB tomorrow you can spellcheck my posts for me.

packerbacker7964 · #11 11-02-2006, 07:12 PM

I read somewhere that her or the other female Gorella had trained on the dirt and couldn't run a lick on it.

repent · #12 11-03-2006, 03:00 AM

I just dont see any reason at all to try dirt.
there is not much to this filly and her action suggests that she is much more likely to only act on turf.
she would certainly rather run 10 or 11f than the 9f of the Distaff, so thats a negative.

the Distaff and the FMT are worth the same amount of purse money.
nothing about the pedigree suggests dirt.

I say keep her on her natural surface unless you were going to try the Classic or DWC.

Repent

Hwjb · #13 11-03-2006, 03:19 AM

Ouija Board is owned by Lord Derby, very much a traditionalist who regards dirt racing as something of anathema. That is the reason OB has/will never be tried on any surface other than turf.

Danzig · #14 11-03-2006, 06:28 AM

if it isn't broke.....
it's a shame that a good, no, outstanding turf horse is still found to be lacking if he/she hasn't run on the dirt. euros are turfers, it's their 'dirt'. we can't use our dirt is tops philosophy when judging euro stars.

Revolution · #15 11-03-2006, 09:52 AM

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Too bad she's not owned by the same people that owned Island Fashion. They would have tried it. I would have liked to see her try the dirt but the problem I would have had with the Distaff is the short distance. I think that would have been more of an issue for her than the dirt. But hey, if u want to see more Europeans come over and try the "dirt", watch next year at Keeneland and at the Southern California tracks when they all have JunkTrack. Turf runners are going to start dominating over here. It would be so hilarious to see Cacique stay in training and win the Hollywood Gold Cup next year.

Cacique is retiring to Banstead Manor Stud. Turf horses are not going to start dominating over here. There is no evidence of this whatsoever. The "JunkTrack" has had no breakdowns and has increased handle tremendously. Better horse safety and more money. How to you knock that?

Revolution · #16 11-03-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

if it isn't broke.....
it's a shame that a good, no, outstanding turf horse is still found to be lacking if he/she hasn't run on the dirt. euros are turfers, it's their 'dirt'. we can't use our dirt is tops philosophy when judging euro stars.

She is only lacking in the minds of crazy people. She is probably the best filly we have seen in decades.

Rupert Pupkin · #17 11-03-2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Can't understand why they never tried her on the dirt. Sure its not like a sire in terms of breeding, but she is an awesome animal. She could've gone in the distaff one of these years and run well. Wish I had seen it.

Most of these European horses who are strictly bred for the grass do not run well on the dirt at all. There are the rare exceptions to the rule so there is a small chance that Ouija Board may have been one of the rare exceptions but the odds are against it. Most horses with that type of breeding won't run a lick on the dirt.

King Glorious · #18 11-03-2006, 02:55 PM

Too bad she's not owned by the same people that owned Island Fashion. They would have tried it. I would have liked to see her try the dirt but the problem I would have had with the Distaff is the short distance. I think that would have been more of an issue for her than the dirt. But hey, if u want to see more Europeans come over and try the "dirt", watch next year at Keeneland and at the Southern California tracks when they all have JunkTrack. Turf runners are going to start dominating over here. It would be so hilarious to see Cacique stay in training and win the Hollywood Gold Cup next year.