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08-23-2011, 08:50 AM
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You should be listening to ATR...
:58.2 and sharp in company with Prayer for Relief. Coil broke off behind and overhauled him. I was coming on the air but Ed Fontaine gave me the details on his way to barn.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. 
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08-23-2011, 09:05 AM
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Now a 'go' for Travers..
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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08-23-2011, 09:40 AM
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Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
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08-23-2011, 09:42 AM
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My gosh, all the hometown folks asked what the hell happend to the track on that Sun....I am not going to go waste time and pull the articles, just thought it was noticed. It was a joke though...but it had a reason behind it.
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08-23-2011, 10:06 AM
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Your horse ran his eyeballs out, why diminish it? I get a kick when people go bonkers over a Baffert horse working a bullet. They almost always work fast, and when they don't, no good.
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08-23-2011, 10:13 AM
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Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
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08-23-2011, 10:16 AM
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Really Scavs, thought more of you until this.....three things:
#1 - It was a joke #2 - My comments dont diminsh anything #3 - The track changed that day so says the people that know more than I (and you) do, but who in the hell knew that coil would drop off the pace and close?? Not me, and I am sure that wasnt their plan. My comment was centered around the track bias on the big days (Derby, Preakness, Belmont, Haskell). I think it is noticable, but in a funny way. Go see how pissed the Halls were after the Haskell, after they decided to run both their horses on their home track only to have some strange bias develop. That was the reason for making the comment, but seriously it was a just a joke.
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08-23-2011, 10:21 AM
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As for Baffert's works, he gets bullets but some get them the right way and some get them the wrong way. Coil is real real good right now, and I am excited to have a decent group all together on Sat. (track bias and all)
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08-23-2011, 10:33 AM
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08-23-2011, 10:38 AM
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I think the word bias is used very loosely. Was there a bias on Belmont day? What's the evidence for that, Trappe Shot and It's Tricky? It's not like they both haven't come back to run very well. Justin Phillip? He's a mud freak that dominated a bad race.
I don't believe there was any true bias on Preakness day. As far as Derby day, the outside paths certainly seemed better but that's what a million people used as evidence to bet Master of Hounds in his next start and that didn't work out so well. Saratoga has been much kinder (than normal) to speed this meet in my opinion. It has had a lot more to do with the rain and drying out tracks IMO. Last year's Travers Day bias came out of nowhere and I hope it doesn't happen again.
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08-23-2011, 10:42 AM
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does 'deep' count.. ive personally seen the track at saratoga set up for outside horses..but hey the track supers do an oustanding job most all of the time.'bieng serious'
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