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Rootdog1 08-23-2011 08:46 AM

Word on Coil's work today? Is a go for Travers
 
Not sure when it is but assume he has worked already. Any insight from those close to the track?

Thank You

Kasept 08-23-2011 08:50 AM

You should be listening to ATR...

:58.2 and sharp in company with Prayer for Relief. Coil broke off behind and overhauled him.

I was coming on the air but Ed Fontaine gave me the details on his way to barn.

Rootdog1 08-23-2011 08:53 AM

Damn work, gets in the way!

Well, guess that answers that.....I was kinda hoping he was gonna sit out this dance...

Kasept 08-23-2011 09:05 AM

Now a 'go' for Travers..

Rootdog1 08-23-2011 09:09 AM

we will see if the track mysteriously is favoring 5 path closers....

Scav 08-23-2011 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1 (Post 802219)
we will see if the track mysteriously is favoring 5 path closers....

Your kidding right?

Rootdog1 08-23-2011 09:37 AM

I am referring to Monmouth/Haskell, and no I am not. Why do you ask?

MaTH716 08-23-2011 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1 (Post 802224)
I am referring to Monmouth/Haskell, and no I am not. Why do you ask?

I think the rail at Monmouth has been dead the entire meet.

Rootdog1 08-23-2011 09:42 AM

My gosh, all the hometown folks asked what the hell happend to the track on that Sun....I am not going to go waste time and pull the articles, just thought it was noticed. It was a joke though...but it had a reason behind it.

NTamm1215 08-23-2011 09:43 AM

Baffert tweeted after the work saying:

"Coil worked awesome. Looks like he might be Travers bound. If he looks great tomorrow."

Scav 08-23-2011 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1 (Post 802226)
My gosh, all the hometown folks asked what the hell happend to the track on that Sun....I am not going to go waste time and pull the articles, just thought it was noticed. It was a joke though...but it had a reason behind it.

Dude, I'm all for conspircy stuff, it keeps me going sometimes, but like Math said, that rail has sucked all meet there.

Your horse ran his eyeballs out, why diminish it?

I get a kick when people go bonkers over a Baffert horse working a bullet. They almost always work fast, and when they don't, no good.

MaTH716 08-23-2011 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1 (Post 802226)
My gosh, all the hometown folks asked what the hell happend to the track on that Sun....I am not going to go waste time and pull the articles, just thought it was noticed. It was a joke though...but it had a reason behind it.

I was there on Haskell Day. From what I remember Root, (with the exception of the rail not being the place to be) I thought that the track played fair. Shack ran a big race coming off the layoff. I thought the thing that hurt him the most was Bravo gunning Joe Vann to the lead. IMO the track had nothing to do with it, he got beat by the better horse that day.

Rootdog1 08-23-2011 10:16 AM

Really Scavs, thought more of you until this.....three things:

#1 - It was a joke
#2 - My comments dont diminsh anything
#3 - The track changed that day so says the people that know more than I (and you) do, but who in the hell knew that coil would drop off the pace and close?? Not me, and I am sure that wasnt their plan.

My comment was centered around the track bias on the big days (Derby, Preakness, Belmont, Haskell). I think it is noticable, but in a funny way. Go see how pissed the Halls were after the Haskell, after they decided to run both their horses on their home track only to have some strange bias develop. That was the reason for making the comment, but seriously it was a just a joke.

Rootdog1 08-23-2011 10:21 AM

As for Baffert's works, he gets bullets but some get them the right way and some get them the wrong way. Coil is real real good right now, and I am excited to have a decent group all together on Sat. (track bias and all)

Rootdog1 08-23-2011 10:29 AM

Almost forgot, Scavs can you please share the bias for Sat so I can tell Jesus? I actually have not been focusing in on Saratago so I'm being kinda serious. Thanks

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-23-2011 10:33 AM

:tro:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rootdog1 (Post 802241)
Almost forgot, Scavs can you please share the bias for Sat so I can tell Jesus? I actually have not been focusing in on Saratago so I'm being kinda serious. Thanks

:tro::tro:

NTamm1215 08-23-2011 10:38 AM

I think the word bias is used very loosely. Was there a bias on Belmont day? What's the evidence for that, Trappe Shot and It's Tricky? It's not like they both haven't come back to run very well. Justin Phillip? He's a mud freak that dominated a bad race.

I don't believe there was any true bias on Preakness day. As far as Derby day, the outside paths certainly seemed better but that's what a million people used as evidence to bet Master of Hounds in his next start and that didn't work out so well.

Saratoga has been much kinder (than normal) to speed this meet in my opinion. It has had a lot more to do with the rain and drying out tracks IMO. Last year's Travers Day bias came out of nowhere and I hope it doesn't happen again.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-23-2011 10:42 AM

does 'deep' count.. ive personally seen the track at saratoga set up for outside horses..but hey the track supers do an oustanding job most all of the time.'bieng serious'


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