McCain shallow like Bush-CNN

[Mike]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...ain/index.html

This article sums it up for me. He suffered as a POW and appears to be a noble man, but that doesn't qualify him to be President in my eyes.

I'm ashamed to have Bush as our President, let's raise the bar in this election

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Mike

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...ain/index.html

This article sums it up for me. He suffered as a POW and appears to be a noble man, but that doesn't qualify him to be President in my eyes.

I'm ashamed to have Bush as our President, let's raise the bar in this election

obama sure doesn't set any higher standards.

[Mike]

In this area, Obama seems to have a noticeable edge over McCain.


However,I am concerned about Obama's involvement with that Rizzo guy from Chicago, among a few other things

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Mike

In this area, Obama seems to have a noticeable edge over McCain.


However,I am concerned about Obama's involvement with that Rizzo guy from Chicago, among a few other things

we are safe with the devil you know-mccain; rather than the devil you don't know-obama.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Why go with another C STUDENT TYPE? He is not brilliant. He is average or below average in ability. Gunna be a tough 1st year transition period for either one though. Either one is a massive upgrade. I think the guy who would probably be the best President is the guy who may be the Democratic V.P.(RICHARDSON= expert negotiator.) Democratic version of the Republican slick back here lawyer that Bush #1 used. From Texas, but can't remember right now.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Obama looks like Urkel after a queer eye for the straight guy makeover.

Which is one of many reasons why he should win.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Why go with another C STUDENT TYPE? He is not brilliant. He is average or below average in ability. Gunna be a tough 1st year transition period for either one though. Either one is a massive upgrade. I think the guy who would probably be the best President is the guy who may be the Democratic V.P.(RICHARDSON= expert negotiator.) Democratic version of the Republican slick back here lawyer that Bush #1 used. From Texas, but can't remember right now.

Obama is a moron too.

Cease and desist with the partisan hackery.

[TheSpyder]

Urkel would be better than either of them!

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Obama looks like Urkel after a queer eye for the straight guy makeover.

Which is one of many reasons why he should win.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Mike

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...ain/index.html

This article sums it up for me. He suffered as a POW and appears to be a noble man, but that doesn't qualify him to be President in my eyes.

I'm ashamed to have Bush as our President, let's raise the bar in this election

...and that would be Obama? now that is funny

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by geeker2

...and that would be Obama? now that is funny

Tell me about it! This shiat cracks me up ... Obama isn't even qualified to run for President of our homeowner's association. LMFAO!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Tell me about it! This shiat cracks me up ... Obama isn't even qualified to run for President of our homeowner's association. LMFAO!

Neither is qualified. Obama has very lil seasoning, and McCain has a history of not getting along with authority. It's one thing to be a Maverick Senator, and another thing to be a Maverick President. Didn't we go thru this with Nixon? Always had a chip on his shoulder. Kind of attracted a bunch of freaks around him that he could trust. I'm not saying they would have the same groups of people they don't get along with, but I think they are both Mavericks in their own party. Replace Jews in this discussion below with another group, because that's about the same type conversations McCain will be having about his enemies(he has many.)

"Nixon and his chief of staff, H.R. "Bob" Haldeman, had the following conversation July 1971:

Nixon: Now, point: [Fred] Malek is not Jewish.

Haldeman: No.

Nixon: All right, I want a look at any sensitive areas around where Jews are involved, Bob. See, the Jews are all through the government, and we have got to get in those areas. We've got to get a man in charge who is not Jewish to control the Jewish … do you understand?

Haldeman: I sure do.

Nixon: The government is full of Jews. Second, most Jews are disloyal. You know what I mean? You have a [White House Counsel Leonard] Garment and a [National Security Adviser Henry] Kissinger and, frankly, a [White House speechwriter William] Safire, and, by God, they're exceptions. But Bob, generally speaking, you can't trust the bastards. They turn on you. Am I wrong or right?

Haldeman: Their whole orientation is against you. In this administration, anyway. And they are smart. They have the ability to do what they want to do—which—is to hurt us."

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Neither is qualified. Obama has very lil seasoning, and McCain has a history of not getting along with authority. It's one thing to be a Maverick Senator, and another thing to be a Maverick President. Didn't we go thru this with Nixon? Always had a chip on his shoulder. Kind of attracted a bunch of freaks around him that he could trust. I'm not saying they would have the same groups of people they don't get along with, but I think they are both Mavericks in their own party. Replace Jews in this discussion below with another group, because that's about the same type conversations McCain will be having about his enemies(he has many.)

"Nixon and his chief of staff, H.R. "Bob" Haldeman, had the following conversation July 1971:

Nixon: Now, point: [Fred] Malek is not Jewish.

Haldeman: No.

Nixon: All right, I want a look at any sensitive areas around where Jews are involved, Bob. See, the Jews are all through the government, and we have got to get in those areas. We've got to get a man in charge who is not Jewish to control the Jewish … do you understand?

Haldeman: I sure do.

Nixon: The government is full of Jews. Second, most Jews are disloyal. You know what I mean? You have a [White House Counsel Leonard] Garment and a [National Security Adviser Henry] Kissinger and, frankly, a [White House speechwriter William] Safire, and, by God, they're exceptions. But Bob, generally speaking, you can't trust the bastards. They turn on you. Am I wrong or right?

Haldeman: Their whole orientation is against you. In this administration, anyway. And they are smart. They have the ability to do what they want to do—which—is to hurt us."

To be honest, I'm not a fan of McCain either (he swings too left for me) ... he is the lesser of two evils IMO and that is why I'm voting for him.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

To be honest, I'm not a fan of McCain either (he swings too left for me) ... he is the lesser of two evils IMO and that is why I'm voting for him.

Ditto.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Ditto.

Me too..looks he's already up by 3 votes..it's a landside!!

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Neither is qualified. Obama has very lil seasoning, and McCain has a history of not getting along with authority. It's one thing to be a Maverick Senator, and another thing to be a Maverick President. Didn't we go thru this with Nixon? Always had a chip on his shoulder. Kind of attracted a bunch of freaks around him that he could trust. I'm not saying they would have the same groups of people they don't get along with, but I think they are both Mavericks in their own party. Replace Jews in this discussion below with another group, because that's about the same type conversations McCain will be having about his enemies(he has many.)

"Nixon and his chief of staff, H.R. "Bob" Haldeman, had the following conversation July 1971:

Nixon: Now, point: [Fred] Malek is not Jewish.

Haldeman: No.

Nixon: All right, I want a look at any sensitive areas around where Jews are involved, Bob. See, the Jews are all through the government, and we have got to get in those areas. We've got to get a man in charge who is not Jewish to control the Jewish … do you understand?

Haldeman: I sure do.

Nixon: The government is full of Jews. Second, most Jews are disloyal. You know what I mean? You have a [White House Counsel Leonard] Garment and a [National Security Adviser Henry] Kissinger and, frankly, a [White House speechwriter William] Safire, and, by God, they're exceptions. But Bob, generally speaking, you can't trust the bastards. They turn on you. Am I wrong or right?

Haldeman: Their whole orientation is against you. In this administration, anyway. And they are smart. They have the ability to do what they want to do—which—is to hurt us."

nixon was the quintessential insider. the guy was vp for 8 years.

goldwater in 64 was a guy working against party orthodoxy. nixon in 68 was the orthodoxy's revenge.

your example is completely off base.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

In some of these Southern States, I got a feeling this is gunna be a story of 10%.


10%- of the Black Vote for McCain

10%-of the White Vote for Obama

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Me too..looks he's already up by 3 votes..it's a landside!!

Those 3 votes are Cajun, you and me!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Those 3 votes are Cajun, you and me!

That's right!

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Obama is a moron too. disagree. think either would be a great improvement.

Cease and desist with the partisan hackery. agree.

what happens to the beulah thread if it closes?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

nixon was the quintessential insider. the guy was vp for 8 years.

goldwater in 64 was a guy working against party orthodoxy. nixon in 68 was the orthodoxy's revenge.

your example is completely off base.

I'm talking about the real person(not some fake persona he had to take on.) Obviously, he set up a White House with his own lil Jew hater society in the Oval Office. He may of had more support from the traditional party loyalists than McCaine has had, but in Nixon's head he obviously didn't think that many people liked him, and he seemed to be constantly thinking even people in his own party were out to ruin him. Although I think McCain is an upgrade, I don't see him as being a leader. I see him being more comfortable as a leader of those against a leader. His nature is to get hot, and do something to make it tough on somebody who did him wrong. That's not that big of a deal when you're a senator. A president looking for revenge against enemies will not be nearly as cute as a moderate Republican Senator "trying to find common ground" with Democrats. He's a leader of opposition to something.The President's job has to be less combative, and it won't be very much fun to a guy like this.