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Mike 08-19-2008 10:38 AM

McCain shallow like Bush-CNN
 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...ain/index.html

This article sums it up for me. He suffered as a POW and appears to be a noble man, but that doesn't qualify him to be President in my eyes.

I'm ashamed to have Bush as our President, let's raise the bar in this election

ddthetide 08-19-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...ain/index.html

This article sums it up for me. He suffered as a POW and appears to be a noble man, but that doesn't qualify him to be President in my eyes.

I'm ashamed to have Bush as our President, let's raise the bar in this election

obama sure doesn't set any higher standards.

Mike 08-19-2008 11:02 AM

In this area, Obama seems to have a noticeable edge over McCain.


However,I am concerned about Obama's involvement with that Rizzo guy from Chicago, among a few other things

ddthetide 08-19-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike
In this area, Obama seems to have a noticeable edge over McCain.


However,I am concerned about Obama's involvement with that Rizzo guy from Chicago, among a few other things

we are safe with the devil you know-mccain; rather than the devil you don't know-obama.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-19-2008 11:41 AM

Why go with another C STUDENT TYPE? He is not brilliant. He is average or below average in ability. Gunna be a tough 1st year transition period for either one though. Either one is a massive upgrade. I think the guy who would probably be the best President is the guy who may be the Democratic V.P.(RICHARDSON= expert negotiator.) Democratic version of the Republican slick back here lawyer that Bush #1 used. From Texas, but can't remember right now.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-19-2008 12:28 PM

Obama looks like Urkel after a queer eye for the straight guy makeover.

Which is one of many reasons why he should win.

Coach Pants 08-19-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Why go with another C STUDENT TYPE? He is not brilliant. He is average or below average in ability. Gunna be a tough 1st year transition period for either one though. Either one is a massive upgrade. I think the guy who would probably be the best President is the guy who may be the Democratic V.P.(RICHARDSON= expert negotiator.) Democratic version of the Republican slick back here lawyer that Bush #1 used. From Texas, but can't remember right now.

Obama is a moron too.

Cease and desist with the partisan hackery.

TheSpyder 08-19-2008 04:14 PM

Urkel would be better than either of them!
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Obama looks like Urkel after a queer eye for the straight guy makeover.

Which is one of many reasons why he should win.


geeker2 08-19-2008 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...ain/index.html

This article sums it up for me. He suffered as a POW and appears to be a noble man, but that doesn't qualify him to be President in my eyes.

I'm ashamed to have Bush as our President, let's raise the bar in this election

...and that would be Obama?:zz: now that is funny:tro:

Cajungator26 08-20-2008 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
...and that would be Obama?:zz: now that is funny:tro:

Tell me about it! This shiat cracks me up ... Obama isn't even qualified to run for President of our homeowner's association. LMFAO! :D

SCUDSBROTHER 08-20-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Tell me about it! This shiat cracks me up ... Obama isn't even qualified to run for President of our homeowner's association. LMFAO! :D

Neither is qualified. Obama has very lil seasoning, and McCain has a history of not getting along with authority. It's one thing to be a Maverick Senator, and another thing to be a Maverick President. Didn't we go thru this with Nixon? Always had a chip on his shoulder. Kind of attracted a bunch of freaks around him that he could trust. I'm not saying they would have the same groups of people they don't get along with, but I think they are both Mavericks in their own party. Replace Jews in this discussion below with another group, because that's about the same type conversations McCain will be having about his enemies(he has many.)

"Nixon and his chief of staff, H.R. "Bob" Haldeman, had the following conversation July 1971:

Nixon: Now, point: [Fred] Malek is not Jewish.

Haldeman: No.

Nixon: All right, I want a look at any sensitive areas around where Jews are involved, Bob. See, the Jews are all through the government, and we have got to get in those areas. We've got to get a man in charge who is not Jewish to control the Jewish … do you understand?

Haldeman: I sure do.

Nixon: The government is full of Jews. Second, most Jews are disloyal. You know what I mean? You have a [White House Counsel Leonard] Garment and a [National Security Adviser Henry] Kissinger and, frankly, a [White House speechwriter William] Safire, and, by God, they're exceptions. But Bob, generally speaking, you can't trust the bastards. They turn on you. Am I wrong or right?

Haldeman: Their whole orientation is against you. In this administration, anyway. And they are smart. They have the ability to do what they want to do—which—is to hurt us."



Cajungator26 08-20-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Neither is qualified. Obama has very lil seasoning, and McCain has a history of not getting along with authority. It's one thing to be a Maverick Senator, and another thing to be a Maverick President. Didn't we go thru this with Nixon? Always had a chip on his shoulder. Kind of attracted a bunch of freaks around him that he could trust. I'm not saying they would have the same groups of people they don't get along with, but I think they are both Mavericks in their own party. Replace Jews in this discussion below with another group, because that's about the same type conversations McCain will be having about his enemies(he has many.)

"Nixon and his chief of staff, H.R. "Bob" Haldeman, had the following conversation July 1971:

Nixon: Now, point: [Fred] Malek is not Jewish.

Haldeman: No.

Nixon: All right, I want a look at any sensitive areas around where Jews are involved, Bob. See, the Jews are all through the government, and we have got to get in those areas. We've got to get a man in charge who is not Jewish to control the Jewish … do you understand?

Haldeman: I sure do.

Nixon: The government is full of Jews. Second, most Jews are disloyal. You know what I mean? You have a [White House Counsel Leonard] Garment and a [National Security Adviser Henry] Kissinger and, frankly, a [White House speechwriter William] Safire, and, by God, they're exceptions. But Bob, generally speaking, you can't trust the bastards. They turn on you. Am I wrong or right?

Haldeman: Their whole orientation is against you. In this administration, anyway. And they are smart. They have the ability to do what they want to do—which—is to hurt us."



To be honest, I'm not a fan of McCain either (he swings too left for me) ... he is the lesser of two evils IMO and that is why I'm voting for him.

Rileyoriley 08-20-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
To be honest, I'm not a fan of McCain either (he swings too left for me) ... he is the lesser of two evils IMO and that is why I'm voting for him.

Ditto.:)

geeker2 08-20-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
Ditto.:)


Me too..looks he's already up by 3 votes..it's a landside!!

hi_im_god 08-20-2008 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Neither is qualified. Obama has very lil seasoning, and McCain has a history of not getting along with authority. It's one thing to be a Maverick Senator, and another thing to be a Maverick President. Didn't we go thru this with Nixon? Always had a chip on his shoulder. Kind of attracted a bunch of freaks around him that he could trust. I'm not saying they would have the same groups of people they don't get along with, but I think they are both Mavericks in their own party. Replace Jews in this discussion below with another group, because that's about the same type conversations McCain will be having about his enemies(he has many.)

"Nixon and his chief of staff, H.R. "Bob" Haldeman, had the following conversation July 1971:

Nixon: Now, point: [Fred] Malek is not Jewish.

Haldeman: No.

Nixon: All right, I want a look at any sensitive areas around where Jews are involved, Bob. See, the Jews are all through the government, and we have got to get in those areas. We've got to get a man in charge who is not Jewish to control the Jewish … do you understand?

Haldeman: I sure do.

Nixon: The government is full of Jews. Second, most Jews are disloyal. You know what I mean? You have a [White House Counsel Leonard] Garment and a [National Security Adviser Henry] Kissinger and, frankly, a [White House speechwriter William] Safire, and, by God, they're exceptions. But Bob, generally speaking, you can't trust the bastards. They turn on you. Am I wrong or right?

Haldeman: Their whole orientation is against you. In this administration, anyway. And they are smart. They have the ability to do what they want to do—which—is to hurt us."



nixon was the quintessential insider. the guy was vp for 8 years.

goldwater in 64 was a guy working against party orthodoxy. nixon in 68 was the orthodoxy's revenge.

your example is completely off base.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-20-2008 08:31 PM

In some of these Southern States, I got a feeling this is gunna be a story of 10%.


10%- of the Black Vote for McCain

10%-of the White Vote for Obama

Rileyoriley 08-20-2008 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Me too..looks he's already up by 3 votes..it's a landside!!


Those 3 votes are Cajun, you and me!:D

Cajungator26 08-20-2008 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
Those 3 votes are Cajun, you and me!:D

That's right! :D

hi_im_god 08-20-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Obama is a moron too. disagree. think either would be a great improvement.

Cease and desist with the partisan hackery. agree.

what happens to the beulah thread if it closes?

SCUDSBROTHER 08-20-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
nixon was the quintessential insider. the guy was vp for 8 years.

goldwater in 64 was a guy working against party orthodoxy. nixon in 68 was the orthodoxy's revenge.

your example is completely off base.

I'm talking about the real person(not some fake persona he had to take on.) Obviously, he set up a White House with his own lil Jew hater society in the Oval Office. He may of had more support from the traditional party loyalists than McCaine has had, but in Nixon's head he obviously didn't think that many people liked him, and he seemed to be constantly thinking even people in his own party were out to ruin him. Although I think McCain is an upgrade, I don't see him as being a leader. I see him being more comfortable as a leader of those against a leader. His nature is to get hot, and do something to make it tough on somebody who did him wrong. That's not that big of a deal when you're a senator. A president looking for revenge against enemies will not be nearly as cute as a moderate Republican Senator "trying to find common ground" with Democrats. He's a leader of opposition to something.The President's job has to be less combative, and it won't be very much fun to a guy like this.


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