Colonial Turf Cup

#1 06-19-2006, 11:20 AM

Is this $1 million race really ungraded? Are there any other $1 million races that are ungraded? Sort of doesn't do much for a horses fee at stud.

Scav · #2 06-19-2006, 11:22 AM

Grade II I think

GPK · #3 06-19-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

Is this $1 million race really ungraded? Are there any other $1 million races that are ungraded? Sort of doesn't do much for a horses fee at stud.

It is ungraded....the VA Derby next month is also $1 million and is was just upgraded to a Grade 2.

It was so good to be out there on Saturday. I love that place.

#4 06-19-2006, 11:26 AM

I might be going to see the Jackson's horse, Showing Up, but I think I am waiting until July 15 for the 2nd leg, especially if he wins this weekend.

GPK · #5 06-19-2006, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

I might be going to see the Jackson's horse, Showing Up, but I think I am waiting until July 15 for the 2nd leg, especially if he wins this weekend.

Well...I didn't think I was gonna be able to get up there for that day, but It looks like now I will be able to get there. I will also be up there on July 8th for the Handicapping contest. If you are gonna be up there, let me know, love to meet up with you.

SentToStud · #6 06-19-2006, 11:30 AM

Anyone have a live video link for Colonial. Youbet.com isn't carrying the meet.

Thanks.

#7 06-19-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Anyone have a live video link for Colonial. Youbet.com isn't carrying the meet.

Thanks.

Anyone know if you can bet on this race in NY.

#8 06-19-2006, 11:27 AM

Guys, I'm not too familliar with this races past. Does it not draw any good horses at all? If it does, why no grading, too young of a race?

#9 06-19-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by seconditis

Guys, I'm not too familliar with this races past. Does it not draw any good horses at all? If it does, why no grading, too young of a race?

Showing Up is going. English Channel won last year.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Winning-Saddle-C...ayphotohosting

GPK · #10 06-19-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

Showing Up is going. English Channel won last year.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Winning-Saddle-C...ayphotohosting

Yes EC did win last year and yours truly was there to see THE MAN in person.

Cajungator26 · #11 06-19-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

Showing Up is going. English Channel won last year.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Winning-Saddle-C...ayphotohosting

Holy cow... I wish I had the $$ for that... Kev would love it!

#12 06-19-2006, 11:40 AM

Sounds like it has the horses to be graded. Is it a fairly new race, hence no grading yet?

GPK · #13 06-19-2006, 03:41 PM

Colonial Downs races area available live through xpressbet.

#14 06-19-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Colonial Downs races area available live through xpressbet.

But not simulcast at belmont or NYC OTB? Showing Up is a much better horse on grass than he was on dirt. That is coming directly from a guy that told me Barbaro was significantly better than all those in the derby. I am putting big money on this one somewhere even if I have to drive down there to do it.

zippyneedsawin · #15 06-19-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

But not simulcast at belmont or NYC OTB? Showing Up is a much better horse on grass than he was on dirt. That is coming directly from a guy that told me Barbaro was significantly better than all those in the derby. I am putting big money on this one somewhere even if I have to drive down there to do it.

We'll have to wait for OTB.. Sometimes they don't show a track, but do show a certain race from the track when it's a big day there.

#16 06-19-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

We'll have to wait for OTB.. Sometimes they don't show a track, but do show a certain race from the track when it's a big day there.

I think the race is on ESPN2, but I am not sure. It really is the only big race all weekend so I imagine that they are taking bets on it. It might be fun to drive down there anyway.

Gander · #17 06-19-2006, 04:35 PM

How can anyone know what kind of horse Showing Up is on the turf until he runs over it in a race? Good workouts dont always translate into good results.

I would demand at least 2/1 on him. Anything can happen in a turf race, horses almost always get bad trips in big fields like this. Any expert who gurantees a victory is forgetting one thing...when the gates open there is as much dumb luck involved than there is the question of talent.