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boldruler 06-19-2006 11:20 AM

Colonial Turf Cup
 
Is this $1 million race really ungraded? Are there any other $1 million races that are ungraded? Sort of doesn't do much for a horses fee at stud.

Scav 06-19-2006 11:22 AM

Grade II I think

GPK 06-19-2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Is this $1 million race really ungraded? Are there any other $1 million races that are ungraded? Sort of doesn't do much for a horses fee at stud.

It is ungraded....the VA Derby next month is also $1 million and is was just upgraded to a Grade 2.

It was so good to be out there on Saturday. I love that place.

boldruler 06-19-2006 11:26 AM

I might be going to see the Jackson's horse, Showing Up, but I think I am waiting until July 15 for the 2nd leg, especially if he wins this weekend.

seconditis 06-19-2006 11:27 AM

Guys, I'm not too familliar with this races past. Does it not draw any good horses at all? If it does, why no grading, too young of a race?

GPK 06-19-2006 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
I might be going to see the Jackson's horse, Showing Up, but I think I am waiting until July 15 for the 2nd leg, especially if he wins this weekend.

Well...I didn't think I was gonna be able to get up there for that day, but It looks like now I will be able to get there. I will also be up there on July 8th for the Handicapping contest. If you are gonna be up there, let me know, love to meet up with you.

SentToStud 06-19-2006 11:30 AM

Anyone have a live video link for Colonial. Youbet.com isn't carrying the meet.

Thanks.

boldruler 06-19-2006 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by seconditis
Guys, I'm not too familliar with this races past. Does it not draw any good horses at all? If it does, why no grading, too young of a race?

Showing Up is going. English Channel won last year.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Winning-Saddle-C...ayphotohosting

GPK 06-19-2006 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Showing Up is going. English Channel won last year.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Winning-Saddle-C...ayphotohosting

Yes EC did win last year and yours truly was there to see THE MAN in person.:D

boldruler 06-19-2006 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Anyone have a live video link for Colonial. Youbet.com isn't carrying the meet.

Thanks.

Anyone know if you can bet on this race in NY.

Cajungator26 06-19-2006 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Showing Up is going. English Channel won last year.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Winning-Saddle-C...ayphotohosting

Holy cow... I wish I had the $$ for that... Kev would love it! :D

seconditis 06-19-2006 11:40 AM

Sounds like it has the horses to be graded. Is it a fairly new race, hence no grading yet?

boldruler 06-19-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by seconditis
Sounds like it has the horses to be graded. Is it a fairly new race, hence no grading yet?

I think it is fairly new. It is the 1st leg of the grand slam of grass. The 4th leg is the BC Turf and the bonus is $5 million, so I am surprised it is not graded.

GPK 06-19-2006 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
I think it is fairly new. It is the 1st leg of the grand slam of grass. The 4th leg is the BC Turf and the bonus is $5 million, so I am surprised it is not graded.


They doubled the purse from last year. I imagine it will be graded next year and the Derby will be upgraded to Grade 1.

eurobounce 06-19-2006 12:05 PM

Wasnt last years race ran under some stormy weather. If I remember correctly, there was a down pour right before the race.

oracle80 06-19-2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Anyone know if you can bet on this race in NY.

yeah Bold you can, how much are you going to put on the winner, Kip Deville?:)

boldruler 06-19-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
yeah Bold you can, how much are you going to put on the winner, Kip Deville?:)

Depending on the odds, I am betting $5,000 to win on Showing Up.

GPK 06-19-2006 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Wasnt last years race ran under some stormy weather. If I remember correctly, there was a down pour right before the race.


It down poured right before the VA Derby last year.

SentToStud 06-19-2006 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
Depending on the odds, I am betting $5,000 to win on Showing Up.

If you can't make it to the track, go to...

senttostudracebook.com

boldruler 06-19-2006 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
If you can't make it to the track, go to...

senttostudracebook.com

Funny. I might be going to Colonial. I was told 100x to bet as much as I could on Barbaro in the derby because he couldn't lose and I didn't, the same guy is telling me this about Showing Up in this race. I just made a few dollars on something and figure what the hell. If he goes off at better than 2-1 I am going to take a shot. I was going to buy an interest in 2 mares this fall and now I am only going to buy 1 so I just saved around 20-30K, so we will see. Anything to justify a big bet. I usually only do it for the derby and superbowl but I am going to make an exception here.


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