Wow!

#1 11-25-2006, 02:30 PM

Nobiz Like Shobiz _ WOW. Look out Derby!

randallscott35 · #2 11-25-2006, 02:31 PM

Hey Joel, I would say that horse is a hell of a lot better than Scat Daddy.

sumitas · #3 11-25-2006, 02:32 PM

impressive from the break to the wire. heady, explosive race.

ArlJim78 · #4 11-25-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Hey Joel, I would say that horse is a hell of a lot better than Scat Daddy.

are you kidding? Scat Daddy would have suffered wind burn at No biz blew by!

Durkin seemed like he almost wet his pants he was so excited...

Revolution · #5 11-26-2006, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

are you kidding? Scat Daddy would have suffered wind burn at No biz blew by!

Durkin seemed like he almost wet his pants he was so excited...

Didn't Scat Daddy blow by Nobiz when they actually raced? It is possible both horses just are not that fast. The lack of progression in the beyers for Nobiz is a little troubling. Consistent mid 90's.

The two at Churchill looked like better horses. I expect that Any Given Saturday to be better than Nobiz and Tiz Wonderful.

ArlJim78 · #6 11-26-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Revolution

Didn't Scat Daddy blow by Nobiz when they actually raced?

he did go by at the end of a stiff drive. no biz in only his second start ran well while having to wait for room on the backstretch.

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Originally Posted by Revolution

It is possible both horses just are not that fast. The lack of progression in the beyers for Nobiz is a little troubling. Consistent mid 90's.

no that's not possible. they are both actually quite fast although No Biz is the horse that I am partial to. i have noticed progression in each of No Biz's start's.

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Originally Posted by Revolution

The two at Churchill looked like better horses. I expect that Any Given Saturday to be better than Nobiz and Tiz Wonderful.

The ones at Churchill looked okay also, but I was not as impressed. The pace and speed figures that I use tell me that Any Given Saturday is nowhere near No Biz at this point. Tiz Wonderful certainly looks good, but the fact that a horse like Any Given Saturday gave him such a test, having to work so hard to put him away, is not inspiring to me.

Take a look at the stretch run of the Remson, look how No Biz is galloping strongly with his head up and little encouragement. I'm telling you this horse has got game.

ateamstupid · #7 11-26-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Revolution

Didn't Scat Daddy blow by Nobiz when they actually raced? It is possible both horses just are not that fast. The lack of progression in the beyers for Nobiz is a little troubling. Consistent mid 90's.

LOL.. Wow. Nobiz had every reason to lose by 5+ to Scat Daddy, and instead lost by less than a length.. And your "lack of progession in Beyers" argument is well.. hilarious. He debuted with a 96 Beyer going a mile.. They throw him into a Grade 1 in his second start, then around two turns in a G2 in his third start. He gets mid-90 figures in all three, wins two out of three with ease while still green and goofy, and you're "troubled" by his "lack of progession?"

Way to go.

blackthroatedwind · #8 11-26-2006, 03:39 PM

I, on the other hand, am not troubled even one little bit by Revolution's lack of progression.

ArlJim78 · #9 11-26-2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

LOL.. Wow. Nobiz had every reason to lose by 5+ to Scat Daddy, and instead lost by less than a length.. And your "lack of progession in Beyers" argument is well.. hilarious. He debuted with a 96 Beyer going a mile.. They throw him into a Grade 1 in his second start, then around two turns in a G2 in his third start. He gets mid-90 figures in all three, wins two out of three with ease while still green and goofy, and you're "troubled" by his "lack of progession?"

Way to go.

I would love for someone to interview Barclay Tagg and ask him if he is troubled by the lack of progression from No Biz. lol
All trainers should be so blessed as to have to deal with that type of development.

randallscott35 · #10 11-25-2006, 11:09 PM

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*** WRONG***

HA HA HA HA. Did Scat Daddy finish the Juvenile yet?

Danzig · #11 11-26-2006, 08:36 AM

only november and already the 'back slap me, i spotted him first' posts are beginning for derby horses.
oh joy.

ArlJim78 · #12 11-26-2006, 08:45 AM

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only november and already the 'back slap me, i spotted him first' posts are beginning for derby horses.
oh joy.

All aboard!!! Let's get this bandwagon rolling.

Danzig · #13 11-26-2006, 09:07 AM

they should call it a merry go round instead.
it gets really amusing seeing people leap from horse to horse as each prep is run. of course a few stay faithful to one, while many proclaim each winner as the next secretariat.
and then hilarity ensues when multiple prep races are run the same day. it's amazing how many second comings of (insert name here of legendary horse here) there are out there. this was a rare year, the '06 winner really couldn't be knocked by anyone. prior years we had giacomo, smarty on his off track-seems many thought he was a specialist, and funny cide.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #14 11-25-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by abe1947

Nobiz Like Shobiz _ WOW. Look out Derby!

its a long way to the top if ya wanna rock n roll...

beyer guess..122..ala bellamy road
tg no...-1

ateamstupid · #15 11-25-2006, 02:51 PM

All aboard the bandwagon.

And he's still goofy.. Was staring at the grandstand, doing his same old tricks.. Corny leaning right throwing the reins at him.. Still opening up and straight as an arrow.

Wait until he really develops.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #16 11-25-2006, 03:19 PM

Boys, just remember who called this horse as their Derby horse for 2007 first

Also, Tiz Wonderful is a monster. I might actually jump from Nobiz Like Shobiz's Bandwagon to Tiz Wonderful's bandwagon depending on how Tiz Wonderful wins today. And yes, I think that he is going to win.

ArlJim78 · #17 11-25-2006, 03:25 PM

I've been on the band wagon for some time. Every one of his races has impressed me, in terms of how he gets it done.

Kudos to Tagg for skipping the BCJ. I think that is the reason you saw such a splendid performance today.

hockey2315 · #18 11-25-2006, 03:35 PM

I'll take a Futures Derby box right now- Tiz Wonderful, Nobiz Like Shobiz, and Any Given Saturday. . .

randallscott35 · #19 11-25-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Boys, just remember who called this horse as their Derby horse for 2007 first

Also, Tiz Wonderful is a monster. I might actually jump from Nobiz Like Shobiz's Bandwagon to Tiz Wonderful's bandwagon depending on how Tiz Wonderful wins today. And yes, I think that he is going to win.

Without ground loss, he loses. Don't think he wants to go a distance like No Biz does.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #20 11-25-2006, 03:47 PM

IMO, both horses are going to be able to go the distance. I also predicted that Nobiz Like Shobiz would win the Derby next year after he broke his maiden. Love that guy. I also definitely agreed with Tagg skipping the BC and actually got into an argument with a few on here about it.

Asmussen and Tagg are loaded. They are holding lightening in their hands. Smart move by both of them in skipping the BCJ. Smart move.