Should Songbird retire?

[10 pnt move up]

The question was posed to her rider mere seconds after the race by Maggie Wolfendale of the NYRA.

I thought the question on the surface is a bit absurd, and to ask her rider seconds after a loss seems odd since he neither trains nor owns the horse.

I don't know if its our culture or what but its horse racing, they lose sometimes. Train them back up and run again.

[RHT2004]

Well... it depends. Shes a solid graded stakes horse. But when psychopaths go around twitter calling her an all time great and stuff then you have to take the L like a man. She will never beat FU again. Songbird IMO just hasn't moved forward from 3-4. Nothing wrong with that and i am sure they can find spots away from FU, Stellar Wind, Vale Dori and Elate. Because right now, she cant beat any of them.
Whats wrong with being good? Historically just off the top of my head shes not better then Zenyatta, Rachel, Silverbulletday, Royal Delta, Beholder.....So when people say best ever or make up lies like Alabama it's just a lot of nonsense.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Well... it depends. Shes a solid graded stakes horse. But when psychopaths go around twitter calling her an all time great and stuff then you have to take the L like a man. She will never beat FU again. Songbird IMO just hasn't moved forward from 3-4. Nothing wrong with that and i am sure they can find spots away from FU, Stellar Wind, Vale Dori and Elate. Because right now, she cant beat any of them.
Whats wrong with being good? Historically just off the top of my head shes not better then Zenyatta, Rachel, Silverbulletday, Royal Delta, Beholder.....So when people say best ever or make up lies like Alabama it's just a lot of nonsense.

u didnt answer the question

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

u didnt answer the question

No she shouldn't. They can cash checks running 2nd to the horses I mentioned or find softer spots.

[Lava]

No she shouldn't but all the 3 year old dirt males should.

[Konk]

They asked Lucien Lauren that same question after the Wood.

God, what a truly stupid question.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Lava

No she shouldn't but all the 3 year old dirt males should.

Not that I blame them, but witness the near instantaneous backlash the 3yo divisions leaders suffered once the classic winners and Haskell runners all tanked in the Travers:

Battle of Midway, classic-placed and a Haskell also-ran, along with fellow Grade 1 winners Gormley and Klimt, all dropped down to listed stakes company at Del Mar for the Shared Belief Stakes and none went off favored. The favorite, Gate Del Oro, had form similar to Fayeq (i.e., a maiden and allowance win) who was long odds in the Travers and was eased across the line.

Battle of Midway, adding blinkers and getting off at over 3-1, romped home by over 6 lengths.

[tanner12oz]

She had an was lead saturday race was hers to lose..slow,fractions not tested. Should have been a romp..obviously something is amiss or everyone has caught up..when fillies go bad they stay bad..retire her

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

She had an was lead saturday race was hers to lose..slow,fractions not tested. Should have been a romp..obviously something is amiss or everyone has caught up..when fillies go bad they stay bad..retire her

The race was nearly identical to her race in the BC Distaff. She responded when challenged mid stretch and just failed to last. Note Eskenformoney, who made a run at her along the fence, got her head ripped off, just like I'm A Chatterbox when she came at her in the BC last year. Forever Unbridled looked like she was going to crash the party last year when Songbird had an easy trip, so it shouldn't be particularly shocking that she was able to turn the tables in a race on relatively neutral ground.

Songbird has not "gone bad" by any stretch of the imagination. It's almost as if the naysayers want her gone now that she got beat again...I presume in case she happens to step up in her next two and ruins the "I told you so" party.