Ky Derby Factoids.

[citycat]

What are some of your favorite facts/streaks about the Kentucky Derby? Will u throw out Bodemeister just on the fact that only one horse has ever won the derby that didnt make a start at two?

Scratch thru any horses with a female jock?

Just wondering what are some of everyones favorites.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by citycat

What are some of your favorite facts/streaks about the Kentucky Derby? Will u throw out Bodemeister just on the fact that only one horse has ever won the derby that didnt make a start at two?

Scratch thru any horses with a female jock?

Just wondering what are some of everyones favorites.

No horse making his route debut has ever won the derby.

No horse running backwards has never won the derby and the list goes on and on.

There is a first for everything.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

No horse making his route debut has ever won the derby.

I wonder when the last horse making his route debut in the derby actually happened.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I wonder when the last horse making his route debut in the derby actually happened.

Probably never. Sir Barton broke his maiden in the derby no ? I can't recall any.

[Danzig]

the first winner, aristides, was entered to be a rabbit for his stablemate chesapeake. believe chesapeake was the favorite coming in. aristides got left alone on the lead and was still in front at the top of the stretch. supposedly his jock was looking around to see where ches. was, and the owner was yelling just keep going or something to that effect.

and i think they used to have the derby on a wednesday.


the founder of churchill was meriwether clark jr, he was Clark's grandson (of the lewis and clark expedition). that ought to answer anyone's potential question of who is the clark handicap named for?

[RockHardTen1985]

Is the founder related to PBF?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

No horse making his route debut has ever won the derby.

Many horses have won the Kentucky Derby without ever having run beyond 6 furlongs prior.

The filly Regret and the maiden Sir Barton among them.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Many horses have won the Kentucky Derby without ever having run beyond 6 furlongs prior.

The filly Regret and the maiden Sir Barton among them.

Of course that was my impromptu response given this year's "oddity" as it were. I honestly don't recall a starter fitting the bill in the last 30 years.

As unlikely as it seems I'm not so inclined to completely dismiss Trinniberg. If I told you now the half mile was run in 48 flat with him on the lead what would be his chances?

[slotdirt]

Before 2011, anybody want to hazard a guess at the last Derby with an opening half 48 seconds or slower? I think the answer to that question should pretty much rule out the chances that Trinniberg will be going 48 flat on the lead.

[Port Conway Lane]

Of course it would. The question is what if.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

If I told you now the half mile was run in 48 flat with him on the lead what would be his chances?

0.00% percent.

He's not that type of horse. Even a horse like Big Drama was far better suited to being a route speed than he is.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

0.00% percent.

He's not that type of horse. Even a horse like Big Drama was far better suited to being a route speed than he is.

Fair enough. I should send you my two bucks.