Colonel John

Bernardini · #1 10-01-2008, 09:31 AM

I understand the hype that is BB vs. Curlin, but is there anyone here thinks CJ just might win BCC?

freddymo · #2 10-01-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bernardini

I understand the hype that is BB vs. Curlin, but is there anyone here thinks CJ just might win BCC?

Do you think Curlin is going to fall?

jwkniska · #3 10-01-2008, 09:45 AM

Curlin's the best horse, but may or may not like the surface. If he likes it, wins easily... if not, then it's a wide open race and instead of looking at the US 3YO's, I'll be looking for some other US older horse or possibly an overseas shipper (if Curlin doesn't like the surface, then this may be the best opportunity for a Euro to steal one).

cakes44 · #4 10-01-2008, 10:00 AM

I think Col. John is still behind at least Well Armed and Tiago off the top of my head. I'm guessing one of the Europeans will put in a big late run to beat CJ as well. Heck, I think Zanjero and Student Council are just as good as CJ. The Travers winner always takes $$ though, which is nice.

In other words, I think that even though Colonel John will probably like the track, he's just not fast enough to win a race like this, and that is saying something this year.

Danzig · #5 10-01-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

I think Col. John is still behind at least Well Armed and Tiago off the top of my head. I'm guessing one of the Europeans will put in a big late run to beat CJ as well. Heck, I think Zanjero and Student Council are just as good as CJ. The Travers winner always takes $$ though, which is nice.

In other words, I think that even though Colonel John will probably like the track, he's just not fast enough to win a race like this, and that is saying something this year.

isn't showing up one to be considered? he is still around, isn't he? or am i thinking of go between...

ateamstupid · #6 10-01-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

isn't showing up one to be considered? he is still around, isn't he? or am i thinking of go between...

Go Between. Showing Up retired a while ago.

Bernardini · #7 10-01-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Do you think Curlin is going to fall?

very possible, though he is on my short list of greatest horses (past ten years only). BB, not so sure about this one...if hes not on lead he will lay another egg. All im saying is CJ can pick up the peices !!

sdjcom · #8 10-01-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bernardini

very possible, though he is on my short list of greatest horses (past ten years only). BB, not so sure about this one...if hes not on lead he will lay another egg. All im saying is CJ can pick up the peices !!

I think you are right and was hoping no one would point this out. I think BB is moving forward, but will not be at a price. My longshot and key was going to be Colonel John. I think he is also moving forward and might surprise with attention on BB Curlin , and Euros. So lets keep it to ourselves and keep those odds up. Good post my friend.

Thunder Gulch · #9 10-01-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bernardini

I understand the hype that is BB vs. Curlin, but is there anyone here thinks CJ just might win BCC?

I've been saying this since the spring. Is he the most likely?? Of course not, but considering his record on the Santa Anita track, he rated some kind of legit shot. Who knows now that we have the ProRide down there, but those top 2 will take a ton of money, so Colonel may offer a price worth looking at.

odbaxter · #10 10-01-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bernardini

I understand the hype that is BB vs. Curlin, but is there anyone here thinks CJ just might win BCC?

I think he has a great shot. He'll be a nice price and home court vs. BB. Curlin should be tough but I'm not taking the chalk.

brockguy · #11 10-01-2008, 03:25 PM

Raven's Pass looks to be aimed at it. It seems like Coolmore will send Duke Of Marmalade rather than Henry (depending on how the Arc goes this weekend). Is Casino Drive still intending to travel.. Could be quite an international race..

Quiet Chris · #12 10-01-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy

Raven's Pass looks to be aimed at it. It seems like Coolmore will send Duke Of Marmalade rather than Henry (depending on how the Arc goes this weekend). Is Casino Drive still intending to travel.. Could be quite an international race..

Casino Drive should be at Hollywood Park by now. He was scheduled to arrive today. He is running in a prep on October 12 and then if all goes well he will run on 2 weeks rest. Ambitious, but he is said to be in incredible condition. Don't know if he will like the surface though. He will take a ton of money from the Japanese, so if you don't like him you want him in the gate.

Raven's Pass should be the favorite in the race in my opinion. Curlin a close second and Go Between third. Big Brown likely will go off the second choice, but is a toss if you ask me. Horse just never regained his April/May form.

RolloTomasi · #13 10-01-2008, 07:09 PM

Raven's Pass should be the favorite in the race in my opinion

Seems like this statement belongs in the "Worst BC Favorites" thread...

philcski · #14 10-02-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Raven's Pass should be the favorite in the race in my opinion

Seems like this statement belongs in the "Worst BC Favorites" thread...

I was thinking "Worst Posts of All Time" thread.

letswastemoney · #15 10-01-2008, 07:19 PM

I'm almost certain Curlin or Big Brown will be the favorite. Casual fans who only do this once or twice a year won't bet Raven's Pass.

odbaxter · #16 10-02-2008, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Casino Drive should be at Hollywood Park by now. He was scheduled to arrive today. He is running in a prep on October 12 and then if all goes well he will run on 2 weeks rest. Ambitious, but he is said to be in incredible condition. Don't know if he will like the surface though. He will take a ton of money from the Japanese, so if you don't like him you want him in the gate.

Raven's Pass should be the favorite in the race in my opinion. Curlin a close second and Go Between third. Big Brown likely will go off the second choice, but is a toss if you ask me. Horse just never regained his April/May form.

If Raven's Pass is the favorite i'll print this forum and eat it.

Curlin will be favoured, no doubt.

zippyneedsawin · #17 10-02-2008, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by odbaxter

If Raven's Pass is the favorite i'll print this forum and eat it.

Curlin will be favoured, no doubt.

LOL!!

Just guessing, but here's where I think the top 5 betting interests will fall in order:

1. Curlin
2. Big Brown
3. Casino Drive (go Japan!)
4. Well Armed
5. Go Between/Raven's Pass

RollerDoc · #18 10-01-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bernardini

I understand the hype that is BB vs. Curlin, but is there anyone here thinks CJ just might win BCC?

Big Brown and Curlin both deserve the BCC hype. I predict they will finish 1.) Big Brown and 2.) Curlin

I don't see Casino Drive or Colonel John hitting the board.

blackthroatedwind · #19 10-01-2008, 09:59 PM

I'll alert the media.

zippyneedsawin · #20 10-02-2008, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Big Brown and Curlin both deserve the BCC hype. I predict they will finish 1.) Big Brown and 2.) Curlin

I don't see Casino Drive or Colonel John hitting the board.

This is a great opportunity to bet against both the big favs. Both tackling a surface they've never raced on. I'll more than happy to take a shot with some others.