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Old 06-22-2008, 07:52 PM
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$2,000.. As Belmont and HollyPark both tip the scales! Analysis/Coverage on 'ATR' Tuesday-Wednesday!
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Old 06-22-2008, 07:57 PM
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BELMONT PARK

4th (2:36)

5 1/2 Furlongs | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $47,000

1 Stunning Electra Gomez G K 118 FTL
2 Ouchy Night Prado E S 118 FTL
3 Dancing Daisy Castellano J J 118 FTL
4 Sneakin Up Marquez C H Jr 118
5 Alexandra's Halo Garcia Alan 118 L
6 Helen's Lady Velasquez C 118 FTL
7 Dorothy's Essense Maragh R 118 L
8 Justify Hill C 118 FTL
9 Beboblues Art Coa E M 118 L
10 Red Seven Velazquez J R 118 L



5th (3:08)

6 Furlongs (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $46,000

2 Alpha Dancer Velazquez J R 118 L
3 Senor Musician Prado E S 123 L
4 Carr Ride Rodriguez R R 118 Blk-On L
5 Digital Age Maragh R 118 L
6 Tee With the Tiger Espinoza J L 123 L
7 Challenger's Song Chavez J F 123 L
8 Pure Tantrum Hill C 123 L
1 City Sneakers Velasquez C 118 L
9 Pano's Love Gomez G K 123 L
10 MTO Fourteen and Out Morales S 111 L
11 MTO Tough Jake Desormeaux K J 118 L
12 MTO Gimmee Getme Panici L 123 L
1A MTO Blazing Buddha Velasquez C 118 L

A-Coupled: City Sneakers and Blazing Buddha



6th (3:40)

1 Mile | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Allowance Optional Claiming ($75,000) | Purse: $60,000

2 Marina Market Velazquez J R 119 L
3 Frost Giant Gomez G K 119 L
1 Rathor (IRE) Coa E M 119 $75,000 L
4 No Reply Garcia Alan 119 L
1A Temecula Creek Prado E S 119 L
5 Shuffling Maddnes Velasquez C 119 L
6 Bribon (FR) Morales S 112 L

A-Coupled: Rathor (IRE) and Temecula Creek



7th (4:12)

6 Furlongs (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($35,000) | Purse: $33,000

1 Carry On the Dream Velasquez C 121 $35,000 L
2 Unbridled Refrain Castellano J J 116 $35,000 L
3 Steamroller Coa E M 118 $35,000 L
4 Unbridled Wish Velazquez J R 116 $35,000 L
5 Ballston Samyn J L 121 $35,000 L
6 Catch Up Chris Luzzi M J 116 $35,000 L
7 Mackinaw Hill C 116 $35,000 L
8 Lyke a Hurricane Prado E S 123 $35,000 L
9 Austin Laviva Baby Gomez G K 116 $35,000 L
MTO Golden Caesar Morales S 114 $35,000 L



8th (4:45)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Allowance Optional Claiming ($50,000) | Purse: $58,000

1 Leo (GB) Maragh R 121 $50,000 L
4 Rio Mistico (CHI) Velasquez C 121 $50,000 L
5 Hotstufanthensome Hill C 121 $50,000 L
6 Extra Zip Desormeaux K J 123 L
1A Quip (ARG) Garcia Alan 121 Blk-On L
7 Winstrella Velazquez J R 121 L
2 Sir Lowry Gomez G K 121 L
2B Trimaran Prado E S 121 L
3 Prince Rahy Coa E M 121 L
8 MTO True Resurgence Hill C 121 L
9 MTO Giant Chieftan Castellano J J 121 L
3X MTO Slambino Velasquez C 116 L

A-Coupled: Leo (GB) and Quip (ARG)
B-Coupled: Sir Lowry and Trimaran
C-Coupled: Prince Rahy and Slambino


9th (5:17)

6 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($15,000) | Purse: $22,000

1 Count This Senora Berrios Cruz J 110 $15,000 L
2 Watch My Lass Espinoza J L 117 $15,000 L
3 Kettlencranberry Hill C 119 $15,000 L
4 Sounds Tacky Velasquez C 117 $15,000 L
5 Only a Vision Coa E M 121 $15,000 L
6 Optime' Maragh R 117 $15,000 L
7 Mesa Girl Chavez J F 117 $15,000 L
8 Skipping Class Desormeaux K J 123 $15,000 L
9 Birds Away Garcia Alan 119 $15,000 L
10 Scorsica Luzzi M J 119 $15,000 L
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Old 06-23-2008, 07:30 AM
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HOLLYWOOD PARK

3rd (2:20)

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Allowance | Purse: $57,000

1 Film Editor Baze T C 120 L
2 Chocolate Lava Rosario J 122 L
3 Down Bejarano R 122 L
4 Honored Gold Nakatani C S 120 L
5 Vanguarda (ARG) Valdivia J Jr 120 L
6 Look Deep Pedroza M A 120 L



4th (2:50)

5 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 2 Year Olds Maiden Claiming ($40,000 - $32,000) | Purse: $20,000

1 C. C.'s Secret Delgadillo A 120 $40,000 Blk-On L
2 Red Jasper Rosario J 120 $40,000
3 Glorious One Enriquez I D 120 $40,000
4 Got Alot Going Solis A 120 $40,000 L
5 Sporty Guy Talamo J 120 $40,000
6 Sherry's Reddy Scott J M 120 $40,000 L
7 Say It Again Garcia M 120 $40,000 L
8 Memo Number Five Campos J L M 115 $40,000
9 Aquicksting Gryder A T 120 $40,000 L
10 Code Brown Arambula P 111 $32,000 Blk-Off L
AE Delaware Doe Bejarano R 120 $40,000
AE Albacore Bob Baze T C 120 $40,000



5th (3:20)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($50,000 - $45,000) | Purse: $39,000

1 One On the House Bejarano R 120 $50,000 L
2 Spark of Dubai Flores D R 120 $50,000 L
3 Toasted Blanc B 120 $50,000 L
4 Kewen Garcia M 120 $50,000 L
5 Ghosttrapper Court J K 122 $50,000 L
6 Ocean Grand Valdivia J Jr 120 $50,000 L
7 El Don Rosario J 120 $50,000 L



6th (3:50)

6 1/2 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($12,500 - $10,500) | Purse: $15,000

1 Wild McDreamie Baze T C 124 $12,500 L
2 Tracker Jack Flores D R 124 $12,500 L
3 Devil Down Enriquez I D 121 $12,500 Blk-Off L
4 Twin Turbo Rosario J 121 $12,500 L
5 The Unclean Spirit Quinonez A 124 $12,500 L
6 Wellnessfast Bejarano R 121 $12,500 L
7 Bluegrass Hill (IRE) Martinez M 116 $12,500 L
8 Taint That a Cat Pedroza M A 121 $12,500 L
9 Falstaff Lane Scott J M 121 $12,500 L



7th (4:20)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Allowance Optional Claiming ($80,000) |

1 El Martillo Rosario J 123 L
2 Crimson Star Contreras L 123 L
3 Guts Smith M E 123 L
4 Raingear Court J K 119 L
5 Enactment (GB) Nakatani C S 121 L
6 Funny Me (GB) Solis A 123 L
7 Wild and Ready Baze T C 121 $80,000 L
8 Afleet Ruler Bejarano R 121 L



8th (4:50)

5 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $48,000

1 Lippy Rules Espinoza V 120 L
2 Winningdancer Garcia J A 120
3 Mad for Candy Gryder A T 120
4 Veranda Cafe Bejarano R 120
5 Sorry Baby Rosario J 120
6 Susan's Wildcat Pedroza M A 120
7 Candilejas Garcia M 120 L
8 Evita Argentina Baze T C 120
9 Stardom Bound Smith M E 120
10 Brewha Baby Flores D R 120
AE Stormy Gigi Talamo J 120
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Old 06-24-2008, 12:31 PM
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BELMONT PARK

4th (2:36)

5 1/2 Furlongs | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $47,000

1 Stunning Electra Gomez G K 118 FTL
2 Ouchy Night Prado E S 118 FTL
3 Dancing Daisy Castellano J J 118 FTL
4 Sneakin Up Marquez C H Jr 118
5 Alexandra's Halo Garcia Alan 118 L
6 Helen's Lady Velasquez C 118 FTL
7 Dorothy's Essense Maragh R 118 L
8 Justify Hill C 118 FTL
9 Beboblues Art Coa E M 118 L
10 Red Seven Velazquez J R 118 L
well let's break the ice and discuss a few races?

Belmont 4.
this race comes down to an opinion on Red Seven. I don't think she is a single, but I don't know that I want to toss her either.
Had everything her way last out going 5f, and still managed to lose. A.Dutrow has a lot of cheap speed. Still, the one who beat her last time would be attractive as a bet-back and she only got beat by a nose. Tough to toss, but I think someone may beat her here.
Asmussen filly Stunning Electra is a prime candidate if for no other reason than Assmussen trains to win first out 2yo and does it at a good% (seemingly moreso with fillies as well?). Slow training style can hide speed, looks like the one time they let her run a little she had a good work over the training track.
Anybody using Dorothy's Essence for Contessa? Is she a must use?

http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...ssa_114818.pdf




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Old 06-24-2008, 02:22 PM
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i thought Red Seven was an obvious single
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:28 PM
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i thought Red Seven was an obvious single
She could very well be.

What do you think of her finish in the debut? Seek On was coming pretty good, but I thought maybe Red Seven was stopping as well.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:43 PM
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She could very well be.

What do you think of her finish in the debut? Seek On was coming pretty good, but I thought maybe Red Seven was stopping as well.
i thought it was a pretty good debut and that she wasn't stopping so much as Seek On was just running a huge one. Red Seven continued to leave the favorite Dorothys Essence in the dust, clear by over six in the end.
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i thought Red Seven was an obvious single
I think it's kinda dangerous singling horses like her.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:46 PM
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I think it's kinda dangerous singling horses like her.
yeah but i would counter that its also costly to try to beat a horse like that not knowing anything about the other firsters. how many debut horses fire off an 11 in their first race? i'm not saying that i would single her on 100% of my tickets, but certainly the majority.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:19 PM
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BELMONT PARK

5th (3:08)

6 Furlongs (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $46,000
6th (3:40)

1 Mile | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Allowance Optional Claiming ($75,000) | Purse: $60,000
5th -
Senor Musician is a must use ?
Pure Tantrum/City Sneakers are tough for me, because I don't know ANYTHING about these guys.
PANO'S LOVE - race watchers?? bridesmade, hanger or victim?? Gomez on.
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...ssa_114819.pdf

6th -
I like Temecula Creek here a little , this is a tough race. Hard to believe Frost Giant favored in skipaway
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...lin_114815.pdf
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Old 06-24-2008, 06:32 PM
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Hollywood

3,4,6/1,4,5/3,4,6/1,2,4,6/5,8/1,7,8,9

$1728
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:48 PM
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4 - 1,2,10
5 - 3,8,9
6 - 3,6
7 - 2,3,9
8 - 1,2,5,6
9 - 3,8,9

$1,296

Back-ups

3/3,9/3/2,3/1,5/8,9 = $32

2,10/1,2,7/3/2,3/1,5/8,9 = $96

2,10/3,9/1,4/2,3/1,5/8,9 = $128

2,10/3,9/3/6,7/1,5/8,9 = $64

2,10/3,9/3/2,3/3,7/8,9 = $64

2,10/3,9/3/2,3/1,5/4,5 = $64

Total = $1,744

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Old 06-24-2008, 08:26 PM
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3 - 3,5
4 - 2,4,11
5 - 1,6,7
6 - 1,5,6
7 - 1,2,3,8
8 - 1,7,9,10

$1,728

Backups

4,6/2,11/1,6/1,6/8/7,9 = $64

3/8/1,6/1,6/8/7,9 = $16

3/2,11/2,3/1,6/8/7,9 = $32

3/2,11/1,6/2/8/7,9 = $16

3/2,11/1,6/1,6/4,5,6,7/7,9 = $128

3/2,11/1,6/1,6/8/2,4,5 = $16

$2,000

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1/2/3/6

1/4/8/7

5 /1

9/5

2/3

1/3/5/4/9/10/6 1,792
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Hollywood

4/2,11,12/1,3,6/1,2,4,5,6,8/5,8/1,2,4,5,7,9,10 = $1512
4/2,11/1,3,6/4,5/1,3,6,7/1,7,10 = $288
2/2,11/1,3,6/4,5/5,8/1,7,10 = $144

Hollywood Total= $1944


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Old 06-24-2008, 08:40 PM
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Belmont

1,4,10/1,2,3,9/1,3,4,6/2,3,6/1,2,3/8,9 = $1728
10/1,3,9/3,6/2,3,6/1,2,3/4 = $108
10/1,3,9/3,6/9,10/1,2,3/8,9 = $144

Belmont Total = $1980

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Old 06-25-2008, 12:12 PM
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Belmont P6

4,10 / 2,9 / 4 / 2,3 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 48
4,10 / 2,9 / 4 / 2,3 / 2 / 1,10 = 32
4,10 / 2,9 / 4 / 2,3 / 1 / 4,5,9 = 48
4,10 / 2,9 / 4 / 6,9 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 48
4,10 / 2,9 / 1,2,6 / 2,3 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 144
4,10 / 1,3,8 / 4 / 2,3 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 72
1,2,9 / 2,9 / 4 / 2,3 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 72
4,10 / 2,9 / 4 / 8 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 24
4,10 / 2,9 / 4 / 2,3 / 1 / 1,10 = 32
4,10 / 2,9 / 4 / 6,9 / 2 / 1,10 = 32
4,10 / 2,9 / 1,2,6 / 2,3 / 2 / 1,10 = 96
4,10 / 1,3,8 / 4 / 2,3 / 2 / 1,10 = 48
1,2,9 / 2,9 / 4 / 2,3 / 2 / 1,10 = 48
4,10 / 2,9 / 4 / 6,9 / 1 / 4,5,9 = 48
4,10 / 2,9 / 1,2,6 / 2,3 / 1 / 4,5,9 = 144
4,10 / 1,3,8 / 4 / 2,3 / 1 / 4,5,9 = 72
1,2,9 / 2,9 / 4 / 2,3 / 1 / 4,5,9 = 72
4,10 / 2,9 / 1,2,6 / 6,9 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 144
4,10 / 1,3,8 / 4 / 6,9 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 72
1,2,9 / 2,9 / 4 / 6,9 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 72
4,10 / 1,3,8 / 1,2,6 / 2,3 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 216
1,2,9 / 2,9 / 1,2,6 / 2,3 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 216
1,2,9 / 1,3,8 / 4 / 2,3 / 2 / 4,5,9 = 108

$1908 total
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:57 PM
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7,10
1,2,3,9
1,4,5
2,3,6,9
2,7
1,4,8

$1152

All (10)
1,2,3,8,9
1,3,6
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5,8

$600

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1,4
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$160
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Really like 'No Reply' in the 6th...............here goes!! Belmont Pick 6

R4.......4,8,9,10
R5.......1,2,7,8,9
R6.......4
R7.......2,3,9
R8.......2,3,7
R9.......4,5,6,9 = $1440

R4.......4,10
R5 ......1,2,7,8,9
R6.......4,6
R7.......2,3
R8.......2,3
R9.......4,9,10 = $480
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Belmont
Race 4
1,2,3,4,7,10 (I don't like the 10 from the outside but I have to play him given his impressive debut. Too many good firsters here to push the 10 wide.)

Race 5
1,3,9

Race 6
2,4,6 (Not huge on No Reply. Shipped up to Saratoga for the first X and has worked only once since 5/15 race. Marina Market might get loose on the lead.)

Race 7
2,3,6

Race 8
2,3,4

Race 9
4,9

$1944

Wish I could do this for real. I had to go back in and change the numbers as I didn't use betting numbers but brisnet #. I know, I'm a dolt but heck this is fun. Good luck all.

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