Shaq?

[Scav]

I GUARANTEE that if the Bulls bucked up and got him in a trade that they would go to the East finals. He is exactly what they are missing and I don't believe that hurt stuff for a minute. I understand he is getting old basketball wise but he could give them TWO years......

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

I GUARANTEE that if the Bulls bucked up and got him in a trade that they would go to the East finals. He is exactly what they are missing and I don't believe that hurt stuff for a minute. I understand he is getting old basketball wise but he could give them TWO years......

Have you seen him play lately? He is slower than me and I can still hit at least 70% from the line. The Bulls may need something but Shaq is not it. They have a lot of mismatched parts.

[blackthroatedwind]

He has no game left and is pretty unlikely to stay healthy. Why would anyone take on that huge contract?

[Scav]

If the Bulls had Howard from Orlando they wouldn't lose. They need a big guy in the middle that will take a double team and let our shooters, shoot.

I actually think they should trade to get Kobe, Thomas is garbage, he can't shoot, he can jump and dunk, that is it. Trade Henrich's ass with him too.....If Gordon had a big man in the middle he would be a top 8 player in the league.

Side note: Joakim has played well the last couple days, but he also has zero shot

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

If the Bulls had Howard from Orlando they wouldn't lose. They need a big guy in the middle that will take a double team and let our shooters, shoot.

I actually think they should trade to get Kobe, Thomas is garbage, he can't shoot, he can jump and dunk, that is it. Trade Henrich's ass with him too.....If Gordon had a big man in the middle he would be a top 8 player in the league.

Side note: Joakim has played well the last couple days, but he also has zero shot

And if Howard played for the Cavs they may go 70-12 for the year but that aint happening. What shooters are you looking to free up? Who will be left if they traded for Kobe? I'm sure he will love the offense when he is on the court with Gordon, Nocioni, Noah and Wallace. Gordon being a top 8 player in the league has a lesser chance of occuring than you becoming Nascar driver of the year. Gordon is good at one thing. Shooting.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He has no game left and is pretty unlikely to stay healthy. Why would anyone take on that huge contract?

I agree about the money but the Bulls are always under budget and if they were looking for a short term stimulus, it might be it. Shaq is just pissed that his girl wants out and his team sucks....

[King Glorious]

I think it's wrong to say that Shaq has nothing left. He's still got a little. Look around the league. How many centers are getting 14 and 7 a game as he is? He's nowhere close to his old dominant self but he can still be productive. If he's got some shooters around him, he can still get them some open looks and they can help to get him a little room. He's still shooting up over 55% from the field. He's not going to be anyone's leading scorer or go-to guy and if the offense has to revolve around him, you would be in trouble.

The only chance of it happening would be for Miami to bite the bullet and offer Shaq a buyout and letting him become a free agent and him being willing to take a huge paycut. This might be good for both parties though. The Heat aren't going anywhere this year. They are likely to be a top 6 lottery team and there are a few really good prospects coming out in the draft. They money they would free up from cutting Shaq lose, contract wise, could be used to try to lure an established vet or two. For Shaq, he'd get to try to go out with some dignity instead of the way things are ending now.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I think it's wrong to say that Shaq has nothing left. He's still got a little. Look around the league. How many centers are getting 14 and 7 a game as he is? He's nowhere close to his old dominant self but he can still be productive. If he's got some shooters around him, he can still get them some open looks and they can help to get him a little room. He's still shooting up over 55% from the field. He's not going to be anyone's leading scorer or go-to guy and if the offense has to revolve around him, you would be in trouble.

The only chance of it happening would be for Miami to bite the bullet and offer Shaq a buyout and letting him become a free agent and him being willing to take a huge paycut. This might be good for both parties though. The Heat aren't going anywhere this year. They are likely to be a top 6 lottery team and there are a few really good prospects coming out in the draft. They money they would free up from cutting Shaq lose, contract wise, could be used to try to lure an established vet or two. For Shaq, he'd get to try to go out with some dignity instead of the way things are ending now.

Shaq is done. He cant stay healthy and hasnt for a few years now. He is simply too big and his body has worn out. And Miami is still on the hook for a lot of his salary against the cap even if they buy him out, which has zero chance of happening. They arent going to give him $30 million to go somewhere else because they know they are dead in the water for at least a few years when his entire contract will come off the cap. That will give them tons of space in 2 years when the high draft picks they get have a little experience under their belt.

Originally Posted by Scav

I agree about the money but the Bulls are always under budget and if they were looking for a short term stimulus, it might be it. Shaq is just pissed that his girl wants out and his team sucks....

They should trade for Bynum.

[blackthroatedwind]

That makes a lot of sense, King, but somehow I just wonder how he can really help anybody when his current team, with one of the stars of the league in Wade, loses basically every game. I mean, they lost at home to the Knicks for God's sake, so how much does Shaq really have? Mild numbers are deceptive and considering how the Heat is doing I wonder if he's really helpful at all.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He has no game left and is pretty unlikely to stay healthy. Why would anyone take on that huge contract?

Shaq is averaging 14.2 ppg, and 7.8 rbg. Shaq and Wallace would be a good duo in the middle. Shaq would only have to play about 15 minutes a game. However, the Bulls are not going to beat the Pistons and the Celtics to win the east.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Shaq is averaging 14.2 ppg, and 7.8 rbg. Shaq and Wallace would be a good duo in the middle. Shaq would only have to play about 15 minutes a game. However, the Bulls are not going to beat the Pistons and the Celtics to win the east.

Isiah, is that you????

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Isiah, is that you????

That was funny. I wish I was Isiah.

[satan's twin]

[quote=Scav]I GUARANTEE that if the Bulls bucked up and got him in a trade that they would go to the East finals. He is exactly what they are missing and I don't believe that hurt stuff for a minute. I understand he is getting old basketball wise but he could give them TWO years......[/Q

Whoa. You must be hitting some bad peyote, Tonto. Shaq has already made out his bucket list, and thankfully, "stealing 30 million from the Bulls while on injured reserve" isn't listed. The team has fulfilled their quota of employing useless centers, thank you. Aside from the laughs he provides loyal Bulls fans with his feathery touch at the free throw line, Ben Wallace is the biggest bust of a free agent in team history. Don't expect to see Paxton getting fitted for a dunce hat any time soon by making the same mistake again.

And who do you think is going to trade Kobe to the Bulls? That trade was never going to happen. That was a case of a 30 year old, multi-millionaire imbicile dragging his feet so he could delay reporting to training camp on time. Believe it or not, superstar scoring machines are hard to come by in the NBA. Teams that have them will do almost anything in order to keep them, including allowing themselves to be subjected to public ridicule, embarassment and second guessing from that player, lavishing obscenely high contracts upom them and standing by them regardless of how wrong they are during their inevitable legal entanglements, like a rape trial every now and then. Unless Isaiah morphs into the GM of the Lakers (much to the orgasmic delight of every Knick fan on the planet), no one with two brain cells firing back to back makes this trade.

[Mortimer]

You forgot to mention Larry Hughesless.

[whodey17]

Speaking of Shaq--here are some of his monthly expenses:

$156,116 in mortgages on three homes (including his $20 million mansion on Miami Beach's Star Island), plus $31,299 in homeowners insurance;

$110,505 for vacations;

$26,500 a month for child care;

$24,300 for gas;

$17,220 for clothing;

$12,775 for food;

$10,065 for electricity;

$10,000 for temporary child support;

$10,000 for alimony;

$6,730 for dry cleaning;

$5,000 for car payments;

$3,345 for phone bills;

$2,305 for pets;

$1,610 for lawn and pool maintenance;

$1,495 for cable TV

[Scav]

I should have never posted such a crazy thought. It is just frustration that every team I cheer for has gone to ****. Lets see the checklist

1) Bears = garbage
2) SIU = garbage, can't even score FIFTY points in a game
3) Cubs = hopeful but that has been the same for 100 years
4) Bulls = beyond garbage

Now lets look at my teams rivals

1) Packers = Outstanding this year although overrated
2) Creighton = rebuilding just the same but can actually make shots
3) White Sox = WS two years ago
4) Cardinals = always good with the most hilarious people
5) Detriot = always good