princess rooney has one running tomorrow

[Indian Charlie]

sunday at keeneland, the great racemare has a chester house 3yo debuting (i think it's debuting anyways!)

it's kind of odd, she had no foals after 1997 until this one, in 2004.

anyways, i just thought i'd mention that so that anyone who was a fan, or even remembers her, could keep an eye out for him.

race 6, house of words.

[Merlinsky]

Oh cool. That's very Winning Colors-esque isn't it? With the foal gap. Maybe she's a hard foal keeper even if she manages to get pregnant. Any more after this one?

[Linny]

Has she been in the US all along? If she was exported, her foals would only make the US Book if they ever came here.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Linny

Has she been in the US all along? If she was exported, her foals would only make the US Book if they ever came here.

I know anybody can edit Pedigree Query but I doubt there'd be that big of a gap in progeny listings for a mare like this (a nobody maybe but she's Princess Rooney for pete's sake) and it doesn't mention in her notes or her progeny report that she ever had foals elsewhere.

Just yesterday I had to remove a Smarty Jones foal that never existed (and apparently got special dispensation to violate the number of letters allowed by the JC ). I swear folks just like playing hypomating with that thing. His other named foals in the database had legit names in the registry fortunately. They do realize a lot of stud farms offer hypos to their stallions on their site right? Ugh. It's always fun when they have a 2009 baby listed or one with a hip number--idiots. I'll go pester one of the researchers to smoke over her stats. Maybe we'll find out if she's been barren, aborted, or what have you.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

I know anybody can edit Pedigree Query but I doubt there'd be that big of a gap in progeny listings for a mare like this (a nobody maybe but she's Princess Rooney for pete's sake) and it doesn't mention in her notes or her progeny report that she ever had foals elsewhere.

Just yesterday I had to remove a Smarty Jones foal that never existed (and apparently got special dispensation to violate the number of letters allowed by the JC ). I swear folks just like playing hypomating with that thing. His other named foals in the database had legit names in the registry fortunately. They do realize a lot of stud farms offer hypos to their stallions on their site right? Ugh. It's always fun when they have a 2009 baby listed or one with a hip number--idiots. I'll go pester one of the researchers to smoke over her stats. Maybe we'll find out if she's been barren, aborted, or what have you.

It is really stupid of them not to offer the hypothetical mating feature for free. All it does it encourage people to create fake horses on there to be able to look at a hypothetical mating. If they just made it free to do or even had an option where you could look at the pedigree before submitting it then I bet it would reduce the number of errors significantly.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

It is really stupid of them not to offer the hypothetical mating feature for free. All it does it encourage people to create fake horses on there to be able to look at a hypothetical mating. If they just made it free to do or even had an option where you could look at the pedigree before submitting it then I bet it would reduce the number of errors significantly.

They're trying to use one of the more popular features to generate money unfortunately. I remember the good ol' days when it used to be free. They do have a sort of way to look at the pedigree as far as they're concerned--you have to make sure the sire and dam have the parents you thought they had but you don't get to look at the 5 generation pedigree is the thing. The only talk seems to be on making it harder to add horses, not putting hypos back in.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Linny

Has she been in the US all along? If she was exported, her foals would only make the US Book if they ever came here.

i got my info from the bris APR CD-ROM. It's a wonderful tool, though way too expensive if you ask me (500 or so i think). has every mare's produce going back about 50 years.

Here is the info for princess rooney. This is from the 2006 version, so no info for 2006 or 07, obviously.

PRINCESS ROONEY, 1980, Verbatim- Parrish Princess by Drone.

YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1986 Ole',B,c,Danzig 2 16 2 4 2 69,700 (100) 3.67
North America Turf Record 1 0 0 0 2,250
North America Dirt Sprints 4 0 0 2 10,500
North America Dirt Routes 11 2 4 0 56,950 (100)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 1 0 0 20,350 (100)
DP = 7-14-19-0-0 DI = 3.21 CD = 0.70 AWD = 8.50

1987 Barren
1988 Barren
1989 Barren
1990 Foal Died

1991 Astral Prince,Dkbbr,c,Risen Star Unraced
DP = 6-10-16-1-1 DI = 2.40 CD = 0.56

1992 Lady In Waiting,Ro,f,Woodman 3 19 3 0 3 42,897 ( 92) 1.45
North America Turf Record 5 1 0 1 24,121 ( 92)
North America Dirt Sprints 5 0 0 1 5,080 ( 83)
North America Dirt Routes 9 2 0 1 13,696 ( 88)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 2 0 0 7,080 ( 81)
DP = 10-6-16-0-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.81 AWD = 8.67
At 4 3rd Dade Turf Classic Handicap -L (50,000), Falling Leaves S. (O)
(27,875)
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1993 444 $55,000 $127,529 ylg (23/34) $100,000

1993 Woodman's Image,B,c,Woodman 4 48 5 9 7 185,914 ( 97) 2.15
North America 2 YO Record 3 0 0 0 900 ( 75)
North America Turf Record 20 2 5 2 82,165 ( 96)
North America Dirt Sprints 9 0 2 1 21,675 ( 97)
North America Dirt Routes 19 3 2 4 82,075 ( 93)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 7 0 3 2 31,700 ( 97)
DP = 10-6-16-0-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.81 AWD = 8.20
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1994 657 $27,000 $97,686 ylg (30/35) $100,000

1994 Rose Tiara,Gr/Ro,f,St. Jovite 2 4 0 0 0 3,355 ( 80) 0.42
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 0 0 775 ( 66)
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 0 780 ( 80)
North America Dirt Sprints 1 0 0 0 775 ( 66)
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 1,800 ( 79)
DP = 3-11-11-2-1 DI = 2.29 CD = 0.46
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEEJUL 1995 129 $125,000 $63,176 ylg ( 3/17) $25,000

1995 Barren

1996 Rooneys Princess,Dkbbr,f,Deputy Minister 2 7 1 3 3 33,010 ( 94) 2.02
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 1 0 8,000 ( 88)
North America Dirt Sprints 5 1 3 1 26,820 ( 94)
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 2 6,190 ( 90)
DP = 4-3-7-0-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.79 AWD = 6.00

1997 Tool Pusher,B,c,Dixieland Band 3 18 3 2 1 19,503 ( 83) 0.49
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 0 0 0 ( 67)
North America Dirt Sprints 14 3 2 1 18,208 ( 80)
North America Dirt Routes 4 0 0 0 1,295 ( 83)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 0 ( 67)
DP = 7-4-11-0-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.82 AWD = 6.00

2000 Barren
2001 Barren
2002 Slipped
2003 Slipped
2004 House Of Words,Gr/Ro,c,Chester House Unraced
DP = 12-5-13-0-0 DI = 3.62 CD = 0.97
SIRE 1.90 Spi, 77str, 25%2yo, 10%1st, 21%Mud/19sts, 14%Tf/226sts, AWD 7.7
DAM(sw) 1.70 Dpi, 4 2yostr/0wnr, 25%Mud/12sts, 4 Tfstr/2wnr, 6 Rtestr/3wnr, AWD 7.7
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 2005 1808 $40,000 $44,600 ylg ( 9/37) $20,000
2005 Barren

[Indian Charlie]

i remember ole, her first foal, pretty well. i was there when he debuted and was very excited to see her first foal run!

i think henry moreno, of all people, had him.

he was very disappointing. he did sire a few useful horses in california at least.