Race 12 Inordinate DQ

JBJake · #1 06-12-2016, 12:02 PM

Has someone been able to explain the DQ in race 12? The supposedly bothered horse didn't seem like he was going to win anyway as he never really lost stride down the stretch. A seemingly ridiculous DQ, no?

NTamm1215 · #2 06-12-2016, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JBJake

Has someone been able to explain the DQ in race 12? The supposedly bothered horse didn't seem like he was going to win anyway as he never really lost stride down the stretch. A seemingly ridiculous DQ, no?

It was one of the most ridiculous DQs I've ever seen. With what they let these guys get away with on a daily basis, it made absolutely no sense. The 1 never lost momentum and was not cost a better placing. Disgraceful.

Alabama Stakes · #3 06-12-2016, 12:48 PM

What would pick 4 have paid if inconsistent blind bel stewards didn't have their heads up their asses again ?

Easy Goer Otis · #4 06-12-2016, 02:17 PM

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It was one of the most ridiculous DQs I've ever seen. With what they let these guys get away with on a daily basis, it made absolutely no sense. The 1 never lost momentum and was not cost a better placing. Disgraceful.

100% agree. Let them race, especially in the last couple furlongs of a turf route, when all the real running begins.

57rick · #5 06-12-2016, 02:34 PM

I was wondering why Ortiz claimed foul?

fantini33 · #6 06-12-2016, 02:53 PM

The amount of $$$ that DQ cost me was substantial.....I am glad the opinion I had is sane as I thought perhaps it was my vested interest in that outcome that was swaying my thoughts.

#7 06-12-2016, 04:07 PM

I had Inordinate in a wager BUT i agree with the DQ. That number 1 was not going to win but it definetley cost him a placing for 3 or 4th losing out by a head. He was pushed wide and that was probably the difference between coming in 4th and coming in 5th.

Easy Goer Otis · #8 06-12-2016, 04:11 PM

Had to be awkward for Chad Brown and his two sets of owners in the winner's circle, as they awaited the decision.

Kasept · #9 06-12-2016, 04:29 PM

Rare that agreement on a DQ be so uniform. Everyone at track and elsewhere disgusted.

#10 06-12-2016, 04:30 PM

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Had to be awkward for Chad Brown and his two sets of owners in the winner's circle, as they awaited the decision.

Awkward? His ideal situation was to finish 1st and second and he did and it wasnt his fault for the DQ. It was a an Allowance race not a Grade 1.

fantini33 · #11 06-12-2016, 04:39 PM

The top 5 finishers were separated by less than a length. He certainly wasn't going to win. It is pretty precise to say that it cost him a placing.

Meanwhile Star Hill gets herded off the screen of the head on replay in the 7th (literally) and they don't even peek at it.

Just seemed very innocuous in a race where they all seemed bunched.

Kasept · #12 06-12-2016, 06:05 PM

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The top 5 finishers were separated by less than a length. He certainly wasn't going to win. It is pretty precise to say that it cost him a placing.

Meanwhile Star Hill gets herded off the screen of the head on replay in the 7th (literally) and they don't even peek at it.

Just seemed very innocuous in a race where they all seemed bunched.

Ed.. I ran to Rusty Arnold and told him to object. He said he needed to talk to Lanerie, but by the time he did, it had gone official. I thought it was totally obvious.

blackthroatedwind · #13 06-12-2016, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Goer Otis

Had to be awkward for Chad Brown and his two sets of owners in the winner's circle, as they awaited the decision.

It's not your fault, as it's actually a fair point, but it made me laugh imagining those actual separate owners ( neither were there ) being in the Winner's Circle together.

RHT2004 · #14 06-12-2016, 07:35 PM

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Ed.. I ran to Rusty Arnold and told him to object. He said he needed to talk to Lanerie, but by the time he did, it had gone official. I thought it was totally obvious.

Star Hill is OK. He will win a big race at some point.

Easy Goer Otis · #15 06-12-2016, 09:09 PM

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Awkward? His ideal situation was to finish 1st and second and he did and it wasnt his fault for the DQ. It was a an Allowance race not a Grade 1.

A $98k allowance. DQ cost one owner about $60k, while the other gained $40k. That's some decent cheddar, even for a mega-stable. Chad has to commiserate with one entity and congratulate the other. That's what I meant by awkward.

A $60k purse pays for a year's worth of expenses, and puts your horse in a profitable position for the rest if the year. Obviously, Chad had Inordinate torqued for that race and they found a perfect spot, with Javy on board. These types of opportunities are not abundant. Hope they can find another one soon.

blackthroatedwind · #16 06-12-2016, 09:18 PM

I'm dying here.

VOL JACK · #17 06-13-2016, 09:12 AM

It was one of the worst Ive ever seen. Especially since Javy gets away with murder on a daily basis. Roman Approval was getting absolutely nothing.

NTamm1215 · #18 06-13-2016, 10:06 AM

The explanation on the Stewards Corner of the NYRA website is as idiotic as I expected. The lack of consistency from the stewards is obviously a huge problem.

It was more of a judgment call, but how they determined Roman Approval was more likely to get a better placing than a horse like Pine Needles in the 2nd on Friday is beyond me. That starts to incorporate opinions of racing that they simply don't have.

With all that goes on out there on a daily basis, why Jose Ortiz felt compelled to object in this situation is an absolute head scratcher as well.

jms62 · #19 06-13-2016, 10:15 AM

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The explanation on the Stewards Corner of the NYRA website is as idiotic as I expected. The lack of consistency from the stewards is obviously a huge problem.

It was more of a judgment call, but how they determined Roman Approval was more likely to get a better placing than a horse like Pine Needles in the 2nd on Friday is beyond me. That starts to incorporate opinions of racing that they simply don't have.

With all that goes on out there on a daily basis, why Jose Ortiz felt compelled to object in this situation is an absolute head scratcher as well.

You can look no further then who was the jockey on the eventual winner.

fantini33 · #20 06-13-2016, 12:42 PM

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Ed.. I ran to Rusty Arnold and told him to object. He said he needed to talk to Lanerie, but by the time he did, it had gone official. I thought it was totally obvious.

Sure seemed obvious to me as well. The head on replay is actually comical as Star Hill goes off the screen.

I also noted that sometimes on these big days it takes races several minutes to go "official" and as I waited for the Inquiry to go up...Bang! "official".

Horses still galloping out.

That animal deserves better and will get it one of these days.