Report: Dutrow Facing Drug Positive

[Echo Farm]

More good publicity for racing.

A horse trained by Rick Dutrow tested positive for twice the allowable level of the bronchodilator clenbuterol, which helps burn fat and promote muscle growth, the New York Times reported June 25.

The Kentucky Horse Racing Authority will issue the ruling June 25, suspend Dutrow for 15 days, and demand the horse’s owner to return the $20,000 in purse earnings, racing officials told the newspaper.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/article/45863.htm

The strange thing (I hadn't noticed it before) is that the Bloodhorse
is getting information from the NY Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/sp...ts&oref=slogin

[philcski]

Gets a positive in Kentucky.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/sp...ts&oref=slogin

"Reached by phone Tuesday, Dutrow acknowledged that his horse, Salute the Count, tested positive after a second-place finish in the Grade III Aegon Turf Sprint and took responsibility."

"Veitch said the level of clenbuterol found in Salute the Count was the highest he had seen in four years as chief steward. He said the testing lab at Iowa State University said Salute the Count had 41 petragrams of the medication in his system, more than twice the level of 20 allowed in Kentucky."

"Salute the Count has won 11 times in 41 starts, but his biggest successes came two years ago when Dutrow began training him. He went from winning a $20,000 claimer to three stakes victories."

Biggest shocker of the whole story there

[Scav]

I would think the amount is more telling then the actually positive...twice over the limit. That is kinda like driving when you have drank 15 beers. 5-6 beers and you are questionable at the level, but 15, you know you are giong to get busted if caught.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Scav

I would think the amount is more telling then the actually positive...twice over the limit. That is kinda like driving when you have drank 15 beers. 5-6 beers and you are questionable at the level, but 15, you know you are giong to get busted if caught.

hes the {24} of the juiceing world..and he dont care ,hes got cash now

[ALostTexan]

Just read about this. Seriously, can racing just get a break this year?

[The Bid]

It doesnt deserve a break. Its a disgrace

[parsixfarms]

Here's the problematic statement from John Veitch:

Veitch said the 15-day suspension and return of the purse money was the penalty for a first offense, according to Kentucky rules.

Only in racing is he viewed as a first time offender. Yet another meaningless slap on the wrist.

[Scav]

thinking out loud, but why couldn't the fine/penalty increase for the amount of overage. I mean listen, a couple pentagrams or whatever they measured in over and I think it is understandable, when it is an ALLOWABLE medication, but when you are twice the legal limit, you are playing games.

Could this work, like if you are 50% over the allowable limit, hit them with a 50k fine and if they are 100% over, hit them with 100k

Just throwing an option against the wall so I don't want to hear how moronic I am.

Is it any wonder Congress has to step in to this ? A ship without a rudder.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Scav

thinking out loud, but why couldn't the fine/penalty increase for the amount of overage. I mean listen, a couple pentagrams or whatever they measured in over and I think it is understandable, when it is an ALLOWABLE medication, but when you are twice the legal limit, you are playing games.

Could this work, like if you are 50% over the allowable limit, hit them with a 50k fine and if they are 100% over, hit them with 100k

Just throwing an option against the wall so I don't want to hear how moronic I am.

You are being completely moronic to suggest that racing might do something that makes sense.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Scav

thinking out loud, but why couldn't the fine/penalty increase for the amount of overage. I mean listen, a couple pentagrams or whatever they measured in over and I think it is understandable, when it is an ALLOWABLE medication, but when you are twice the legal limit, you are playing games.

Could this work, like if you are 50% over the allowable limit, hit them with a 50k fine and if they are 100% over, hit them with 100k

Just throwing an option against the wall so I don't want to hear how moronic I am.

It's probably because of maximum penalties that are already prescribed by law/regulation. In NY, for example, a recent law was passed by the legislature to up the maximum penalties for certain offenses from $5,000 per incident to $20,000 per incident.

[freddymo]

The real penalty will be when IEAH leave him because of the negative publicity they are most certainly going to receive

[Scav]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

It's probably because of maximum penalties that are already prescribed by law/regulation. In NY, for example, a recent law was passed by the legislature to up the maximum penalties for certain offenses from $5,000 per incident to $20,000 per incident.

Yeah that is probably correct....I really think the key is getting these state racing boards together somewhere and forming some sort of statewide racing control board where everything is in sync, medication levels are all the same, fines are prorated towards purse structure (obviously a fine at Arlington wouldn't be the same at Saratoga)

It is just like when two companies merge, gotta get them on the same page or craziness ensues

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The real penalty will be when IEAH leave him because of the negative publicity they are most certainly going to receive

But where will they go; Patrick Biancone doesn't come off his suspension until later this year.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The real penalty will be when IEAH leave him because of the negative publicity they are most certainly going to receive

You are right....

It's sad to think they're not gonna make it.
But it's getting to the point
Where they just can't fake it.
For some ungodly reason
they won't let it die....

There can be no way
There can be no way
this can have a happy ending.....

[The Bid]

Im sure IEAH will leave him (sarcastic)..... Those guys are lucky they have a guy like Dutrow to right the ship. Without certain particulars in place they would be like West Point until their lucky year. Its mindboggling how lucky they have been with as little comprehension as they have for the game. Dutrow is invaluable to IEAH's success, without him they are pretty much zeros

[Scav]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Im sure IEAH will leave him (sarcastic)..... Those guys are lucky they have a guy like Dutrow to right the ship. Without certain particulars in place they would be like West Point until their lucky year. Its mindboggling how lucky they have been with as little comprehension as they have for the game. Dutrow is invaluable to IEAH's success, without him they are pretty much zeros

I love it!!

[The Bid]

Its the truth, you cannot buy Rick Dutrow a bad horse because whatever he does works on anything. He has the magic wand, whats at the tip of that magic wand is anyones guess.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by kagbr

Is it any wonder Congress has to step in to this ? A ship without a rudder.

Yeah, because there is nothing else wrong in the country!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Im sure IEAH will leave him (sarcastic)..... Those guys are lucky they have a guy like Dutrow to right the ship. Without certain particulars in place they would be like West Point until their lucky year. Its mindboggling how lucky they have been with as little comprehension as they have for the game. Dutrow is invaluable to IEAH's success, without him they are pretty much zeros

Dutrow will not be training for IEAH in the near future and they will send their stock away.. They use other people already.. Ivarone and his clones will get with Dutrow and his vetinary machine in another capacity with different investors who understand the risk..