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Old 04-07-2008, 12:45 PM
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How is Songandaprayer as a stallion? I've read the bloodhorse, stallion directory, etc, etc....Need more knowledgeable info....thanks.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:57 PM
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How is Songandaprayer as a stallion? I've read the bloodhorse, stallion directory, etc, etc....Need more knowledgeable info....thanks.
tons of early speed, distance questions...
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:38 PM
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Thank god you got the brightest guy here to answer you.
Oh, I thought that post was a self-asessment.
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:39 PM
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an honest answer.....Use another thread to "bag" on the bullshiters.
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:41 PM
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an honest answer.....Use another thread to "bag" on the bullshiters.
thank you, that answer i gave is how i feel.
he can produce first time winners also,i dont know the exact percentage,but i have hit a few at calder. normally show fast works, and have lots of early speed. i think his best offspring to date has to be the darley horse..... songster, who actually just " UNRETIRED'
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:42 PM
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an honest answer.....Use another thread to "bag" on the bullshiters.
your original question could have been a wee bit less vague, no?

however, in addition to what the legend of pg1985 said to you, i would add frailty to the description.
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your original question could have been a wee bit less vague, no?

however, in addition to what the legend of pg1985 said to you, i would add frailty to the description.
Thought it was a straight forward question
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:17 PM
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How is Songandaprayer as a stallion? I've read the bloodhorse, stallion directory, etc, etc....Need more knowledgeable info....thanks.
I'm concerned about the soundness of his get, but that's a concern for most of the current stallions.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:59 PM
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This would be a great question for Robert Fox, who is a member here and a regular on the show. You can also ask a couple of trainers and hopefully you'd get an unbiased opinion.

I've looked at a few in the past to claim. Ultiamtely, as with many claimers, you pass for a variety of reasons. One of the reasons that has come up here, very generically, is that IMO, for the most part, there is a notion out there that they tend not to "hold up". Some people haven't seen them as durable racehorses who can stand up to training, works, etc. and racing on a day in/day out, week in/week out, and month after month basis. Maybe true, maybe not. But perception often becomes the reality in this game.

I watched a lot of them come out and I did see that after a few starts -- 3 or 4, maybe a few more -- they seemed to get "off" or need some time, had to back off, etc. I can't say that as 3yo's they were underdeveloped as a whole and needed more time, but trainers would be qualified to answer that -- especially as to how they hold up. Confirmation is one thing. What and how that confirmation plays out is something different.

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Old 04-07-2008, 05:00 PM
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I'm concerned about the soundness of his get, but that's a concern for most of the current stallions.
There you go. As far as most of the current stallions -- well, that's a discussion for another time and place, LOL, however, I agree.

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SONGANDAPRAYER:
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/sta...gRunnersAnchor
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